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LWS Design - Carbon Fibre Boot, Bonnet and Roofskin
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 9:49 pm
by andrew_lwsdesign
Hi,
Just wanted to make you aware LWS Design now have E30 Bonnets, Boots and Roofskins available in Carbon Fibre and Infused GRP..
We have posted some pictures on our Facebook page...
Hope to contribute more to the forum from now on...
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set ... 671&type=3
Thanks,
Andrew
Re: LWS Design - Carbon Fibre Boot, Bonnet and Roofskin
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 9:59 pm
by ross2009
work looks good would be defo interested in a boot lid
Re: LWS Design - Carbon Fibre Boot, Bonnet and Roofskin
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 10:07 pm
by maxfield
The quality is second to none.
At my old place a customer bought a roof and I was extremely impressed.
Re: LWS Design - Carbon Fibre Boot, Bonnet and Roofskin
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 10:08 pm
by andrew_lwsdesign
No problem at all, just let us know... We have been big in the VW scene for about a year but really want to push the BMW products and in particular the E30.. the weight saving is huge, our Carbon Fibre Bonnet is about 4kg, Roofskin about 2kg and Boot is 2.5.. all are moulded from factory parts and bonnet and boot oem screw threads etc
Re: LWS Design - Carbon Fibre Boot, Bonnet and Roofskin
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 10:09 pm
by andrew_lwsdesign
Appreciate the comments Maxfield, we are proud of what we do but great to get feedback

Re: LWS Design - Carbon Fibre Boot, Bonnet and Roofskin
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 10:12 pm
by ross2009
ive already got a carbon bonnet i love it i want a boot lid too
Re: LWS Design - Carbon Fibre Boot, Bonnet and Roofskin
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 10:18 pm
by andrew_lwsdesign
drop us a mail to
info@lwsdesign.co.uk if you would like any more details or orders etc

Re: LWS Design - Carbon Fibre Boot, Bonnet and Roofskin
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 2:21 pm
by AndyZippy
The bonnets definately have my attention - What are the full differences between the £600 and £700 versions?
Re: LWS Design - Carbon Fibre Boot, Bonnet and Roofskin
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 2:31 pm
by gooner1
Any plans for the E30 Touring Tailgate?
Re: LWS Design - Carbon Fibre Boot, Bonnet and Roofskin
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 2:50 pm
by hennared323i
gooner1 wrote:Any plans for the E30 Touring Tailgate?
Now they would sell by the bucket load
Re: LWS Design - Carbon Fibre Boot, Bonnet and Roofskin
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 9:18 pm
by andrew_lwsdesign
Hi, the difference is the inside frame on the £600 bonnet is infused GRP, very lightweight but not carbon. We do not wet lay any fibreglass... All is infused which is a vacuum bagging process that makes it much lighter and very strong... This is the same process for the carbon...
As a special to get the ball rolling on the forum happy to offer each of bonnets with £100 off this week and £50 off the carbon boot...
Delivery is about 5 to 6 weeks...
Re: LWS Design - Carbon Fibre Boot, Bonnet and Roofskin
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 9:20 pm
by andrew_lwsdesign
Re the touring tailgate.. If there is interest we can mould it but would not take this on until the new year... We would need 6 orders to justify the moulding time but it is do able but not for the next few months...
Re: LWS Design - Carbon Fibre Boot, Bonnet and Roofskin
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 10:11 pm
by Jozi
There's a lip protruding from the edge on the touring tailgate which might be dificult to mould?
How many layers go into the cf? I was looking on fb earlier, some quality looking work there!
Re: LWS Design - Carbon Fibre Boot, Bonnet and Roofskin
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 10:49 pm
by andrew_lwsdesign
Would need to see the tailgate to comment nothing is impossible
Regarding layers of carbon... Each product has 5 layers, 2 on the outer skins and 3 layers on the inner frames, there is also a core in the skin and then all resin infused, very strong, very light

Re: LWS Design - Carbon Fibre Boot, Bonnet and Roofskin
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 11:13 pm
by Gavla
Looks like good work.
Any plans to do anything else e30 related, front wings, doors, tech 1 kits...?
Would be great to have a panels that can't rust and super strong.
Re: LWS Design - Carbon Fibre Boot, Bonnet and Roofskin
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 11:26 pm
by andrew_lwsdesign
Just have the roof, bonnet and boot at the moment for panels but if there is demand next year we can look at moulding but sadly not this year due to space constraints ...
We do have full carbon fibre door card kits, custom CNC cut to size and polycarbonate windows too...
Re: LWS Design - Carbon Fibre Boot, Bonnet and Roofskin
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 5:12 pm
by andrew_lwsdesign
Just posted picture of it resting on the car to our facebook page...
https://www.facebook.com/pages/LWS-Desi ... 8776310671
Must work out how to upload pictures here!
trying..

Re: LWS Design - Carbon Fibre Boot, Bonnet and Roofskin
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 5:26 pm
by billgatese30
Enclosing your link in Image tags [img][/img] like I have below should result in the picture showing
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Re: LWS Design - Carbon Fibre Boot, Bonnet and Roofskin
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 5:45 pm
by andrew_lwsdesign
Genius.. thanks billgatese30
Re: LWS Design - Carbon Fibre Boot, Bonnet and Roofskin
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 6:30 pm
by Rav335uk
Re: LWS Design - Carbon Fibre Boot, Bonnet and Roofskin
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 6:35 pm
by Fastroad
The work look quality a‘a
Re: LWS Design - Carbon Fibre Boot, Bonnet and Roofskin
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:12 am
by AndyZippy
andrew_lwsdesign wrote:Hi, the difference is the inside frame on the £600 bonnet is infused GRP, very lightweight but not carbon. We do not wet lay any fibreglass... All is infused which is a vacuum bagging process that makes it much lighter and very strong... This is the same process for the carbon...
As a special to get the ball rolling on the forum happy to offer each of bonnets with £100 off this week and £50 off the carbon boot...
Delivery is about 5 to 6 weeks...
Damn, you would make that offer now :p Will likely be in touch in the new year, about a full CF bonnet - Car respray a couple/few months in, and that would be the ideal time to fit

Pretty much spent out as far as this year goes!
Re: LWS Design - Carbon Fibre Boot, Bonnet and Roofskin
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 10:17 am
by Demlotcrew
Andrew, get going on E46 carbon roofs, the CSL roof is now NLA and lots of cheap copies flooding the market!
They are a piece of cake to manufacture and even easier to install than an E30 one! (but try and use the same weave).
Ill send my invoice for such tips in the form of a discount for a boot panel
Andrew
Re: LWS Design - Carbon Fibre Boot, Bonnet and Roofskin
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 11:58 am
by daimlerman
andrew_lwsdesign wrote:Re the touring tailgate.. If there is interest we can mould it but would not take this on until the new year... We would need 6 orders to justify the moulding time but it is do able but not for the next few months...
Ballpark cost?
Re: LWS Design - Carbon Fibre Boot, Bonnet and Roofskin
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:47 pm
by andrew_lwsdesign
Sorry, had not seen this message, must sort out my notifications! The cost would be about £550 per tailgate for full carbon and would weigh about 3kg approx
Re: LWS Design - Carbon Fibre Boot, Bonnet and Roofskin
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 10:10 pm
by daimlerman
andrew_lwsdesign wrote:Sorry, had not seen this message, must sort out my notifications! The cost would be about £550 per tailgate for full carbon and would weigh about 3kg approx
No worries,at that kind of wieght we will need to look into alternate gas struts to hold it open,the steel one with glass fitted is remarkably heavy!
Further questions;
Will your moulding be made to accept the standard trim,inside and out?
Would it take paint,to match body colour?
Would it be possible to mould it so that the glass fits without the channel around the sides and lower edge?
(this is where water gets past the stock seal,leading to rot,yes,I know carbon fibre does not rot but eliminating the channel and finishing the glass/moulding join with a coloured polyurethene sealer would look much better)
I'm interested,are five others?
Re: LWS Design - Carbon Fibre Boot, Bonnet and Roofskin
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 10:41 pm
by hennared323i
Oh yes

Re: LWS Design - Carbon Fibre Boot, Bonnet and Roofskin
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 11:07 pm
by craigieeb
daimlerman wrote:
I'm interested,are five others?
Welllllll
I could be tempted

Re: LWS Design - Carbon Fibre Boot, Bonnet and Roofskin
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 11:28 pm
by Jozi
If he does the moulds how I think he does them then they should be near enough identical copies of the original boot lid and trim should fit back?
Depending on timing and finances a touring bootlid sounds interesting. Carbon, wings (do you do these also?), bonnet, sunroof and now a boot lid would make for a significant weight reduction, I better get saving for all of it!
---edit---
Struts should be easy enough,
http://www.gasstruts.co.uk/ can make them up to your spec.
Re: LWS Design - Carbon Fibre Boot, Bonnet and Roofskin
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 3:32 pm
by andrew_lwsdesign
Hi,
Right have now sorted out my notification settings so should not miss these conversations again!
All the interior trim could be fitted back onto it as it would be moulded from a standard part, all products can be supplied primed and ready to paint for just £50 more. Changes to the mould if i am honest will be tricky... we can try but 9 time out of 10 the finish is far better to mould and supply exactly the same as the original...
Thanks, Andrew
Re: LWS Design - Carbon Fibre Boot, Bonnet and Roofskin
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 3:36 pm
by andrew_lwsdesign
Re: LWS Design - Carbon Fibre Boot, Bonnet and Roofskin
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 6:44 pm
by Silverfang
+1 for interest on the Touring tailgate. Mine's going rusty, so a carbon one wouldn't be a half bad idea, no rust and lighter

Re: LWS Design - Carbon Fibre Boot, Bonnet and Roofskin
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 8:18 pm
by andrew_lwsdesign
I will start a separate thread regarding the touring tailgate... we can take this on...but from experience of the Corrado Tailgate it can be a long process and sadly we cannot put our business totally on hold to manufacture this but it certainly can be done but I would rather be upfront with expectation on timescales..
We would not be able to start this until about Feb time... The moulding time is likely to be 2 months... It is actually about 2-3 weeks work but we cannot stop everything else while do this so we have to fit it around the other orders and we are very tight for space in our workshop.
We would need a donor tailgate that is VGC, does this exist?! We would also need 5 placed orders, so not interest but actual orders... the cost would be £600 each.
I am not suggesting even thinking about orders at the moment until Feb time but this is what it would take to make this happen... I hope this doesn't come across negatively, just want to be realistic with you all but equally would love to make a part that there is good demand for

Re: LWS Design - Carbon Fibre Boot, Bonnet and Roofskin
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 9:45 pm
by harry_p
That bonnet looks amazing. Please do some e36 bits
I'm sure you'd get plenty of people buying e30 m3 front wings and boot lids done to that sort of standard too.
Re: LWS Design - Carbon Fibre Boot, Bonnet and Roofskin
Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 4:44 am
by Akmpower
I see this bootlid last night as that white e30 in your pics is my mates car, got to say really amazed at the quality and finish especially the boot lid could not believe the detail and quality of finish defiantly a good buy