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Which steering rack?
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:34 pm
by davelarge
I've seen another thread like this somewhere but couldn't find it using the search
I've found a breaker who has got 3 steering racks in stock:
e46 325ci
e36
e36 m3 evo
Which is the best as an upgrade for my 318is? and roughly what price should I be paying as I don't want to get ripped off!
Thanks.
Re: Which steering rack?
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:54 pm
by harry_p
You DON'T want the e36 evo one. It's the same ratio but less lock than the bog standard e36 one, and they'll probably ask twice as much money for it!
I think the e46 one is slightly quicker than the e46 one, the e46 racks to go for have a purple tag and 067 number.
Re: Which steering rack?
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 7:16 am
by davelarge
The evo one is exactly twice as much!

so avoid that?
So you would recommend the e46 rack over the e36?
Will it make a big difference as the e30 is 4 turns, the ad's say the e46 is 3.2 turns and the standard e36 is 3.5?
Re: Which steering rack?
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:00 am
by DanThe
Dont bother with any E36 racks, waste of time now there are so many E46 racks about which are so much better
Re: Which steering rack?
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:16 am
by driftwood
Why are e46 racks better?
Re: Which steering rack?
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:20 am
by Grrrmachine
They're newer for a start, so won't have the decades of wear and tear that every E36 rack will have by now.
Re: Which steering rack?
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:34 am
by Meatballs82
E46 067 rack FTMFW!!!!

Re: Which steering rack?
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:41 am
by davelarge
*edit*
just read the wiki saying that the 067 is less turns lock to lock.
would it still be worth while if its not an 067 and easy to tell if its an 067 or not just incase he hasn't got a clue what im talking about?
Re: Which steering rack?
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 11:07 am
by Meatballs82
I can only speak for the 067 as its the only rack I've used apart from the standard one. There's a metal tag on the rack that has the part numbers on, if you click onto my cars thread you will see a pic on one of the last page showing this tag
All I can say is - DO IT!
Re: Which steering rack?
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 11:25 am
by davelarge
Ive messaged the seller to see if its an 067 but ive not got high hopes as the Ad states its 3.2 turns (although the wiki says 067 is 3 and standard is 3.4)

Re: Which steering rack?
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 1:39 pm
by smithysmith
ive just fitted an 067 and its just under 3 turns. there's a few on ebay, dont pay more than £40
Re: Which steering rack?
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:36 pm
by G-Bear
Go for the 067.. not long fitted one, and have smiled driving all 1143 miles around Cornwall over the last 5 days.. a worthwhile upgrade..
Re: Which steering rack?
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 11:14 pm
by Prey
another vote here for the e46 067 (purple label), i run one 'manual-ed' and really like it.
Re: Which steering rack?
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 11:15 pm
by Prey
also don't bother what model it's off. they fitted them to all sorts - compacts, 330s etc, its just the purple label and number you need.
Re: Which steering rack?
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 11:37 pm
by MrT8064
I hadn't considered a rack upgrade until reading this thread. What parts other than the rack are needed for the install (in a 318iS too)? I know there are other install threads on here but I didn't see anything specific to the e46 rack and 318is!
Re: Which steering rack?
Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 7:27 am
by davelarge
The seller has confirmed its an 067 and its under £40 so im over the moon and I will be collecting tomorrow as its quite local!
I hadn't considered a rack upgrade until reading this thread. What parts other than the rack are needed for the install (in a 318iS too)? I know there are other install threads on here but I didn't see anything specific to the e46 rack and 318is!
Im also a little curious about what is needed as there are so many threads on the net and in each one its almost impossible to find a detailed write up for the model of e30 and rack you have

From what I gather you can use the E30 hoses and track rod ends, the UJ is where I am unsure but I think you can add spacers to the original and it will work.
Re: Which steering rack?
Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:15 am
by G-Bear
davelarge wrote:
What parts other than the rack are needed for the install (in a 318iS too)? I know there are other install threads on here but I didn't see anything specific to the e46 rack and 318is!
Im also a little curious about what is needed as there are so many threads on the net and in each one its almost impossible to find a detailed write up for the model of e30 and rack you have

From what I gather you can use the E30 hoses and track rod ends, the UJ is where I am unsure but I think you can add spacers to the original and it will work.
Read through this thread...
http://www.e30zone.net/modules.php?name ... c&t=148445
You can bend the original hoses yourself.. Dan (the OP of the linked thread above) can supply custom hoses, new washers and spacers.. made to a very good standard.
Escort engine mounts from Burton (as recommended by Dan) helped me with clearance of the manifold, although I am getting a bit of rubbing still when turning left hard..
Have a look on wiki too and yes there are plenty of threads on here with all the info you need.. you just have to floss thorugh it all.. the best way to learn

Re: Which steering rack?
Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 10:02 am
by davelarge
Ive read through that thread and the wiki along with this thread from r3v:
http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=66247
I think im going to just do a bit of trial and error starting with the standard joint, then ill try the corsa c joint and then as a last resort I will get the custom joint from Dan. Sounds like i'm being tight but if the joint from Dan is £40 + the cost of two e34 uj's its worth a try as I'm at a point where I can have the car off the road while I do this.
Are these the mounts Dan recommends?
http://www.burtonpower.com/engine-mount ... fp292.html
Re: Which steering rack?
Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 10:14 am
by G-Bear
Re: Which steering rack?
Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 10:22 am
by davelarge
Ill get some of them ordered then, I think mine are shot anyway. Cheers

Re: Which steering rack?
Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 11:09 am
by GB69
I'm gonna use an e36 rack, just because I have a spare 1 which cost me nothing. Also kept the hoses from the e36 aswell. Going to use/bodge e34 uj's as I'm breaking a 540 for engine conversion.