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Devil foam on bonnet underside?
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:05 pm
by benbenben
This foam is driving me mad! Falling to pieces all over the engine and all over my clothes.
Going to rip it out, is it just for sound dampening?
Anyone suggest a replacement?
I'm running an 318i M10, so noise isn't really an issue.
Re: Devil foam on bonnet underside?
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:06 pm
by ross_jsy
You can buy it new from BMW and it's relatively cheap
Re: Devil foam on bonnet underside?
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:07 pm
by jimbom30cab
i know it falls off in chunks but is't removing it completely supposed to be a pig of a job ?
Re: Devil foam on bonnet underside?
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:09 pm
by sunnyr83
Bonnet off job for best result and some sort of glue removal, i think reanult brake cleaner or something, may be very wrong there.
Re: Devil foam on bonnet underside?
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:12 pm
by bss325i
From my sport thread.
bss325i wrote:Another job i have tackled recently is the under bonnet foam which is a common E30 problem and can be very unsightly under the bonnet when its old and crumbly!
A top tip for this job!
I have heard of other people tackeling this and it being very messy and time consuming. Well i have found something that speeds things up and reduces the mess!
Toytas own brand brake cleaner! It is solvent based and after removing the bonet, pulling of the bigger chunks of foam you are lift with the glue still on the bonnet with a thin layer of foam.
The Toyota brake cleaner disolves the glue and foam and turns it into a mush that can be scraped of, near enough wiped off with plastic filler spreader and a rag.
Once the mush is removed a wipe down with the brake cleaner and the surface is ready to stick the new foams on. The brake cleaner does not damage the paint in any way either.
Much better!
Re: Devil foam on bonnet underside?
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:58 pm
by polsta
jimbom30cab wrote:i know it falls off in chunks but is't removing it completely supposed to be a pig of a job ?
all i did- lay a blanket over the bay, a little plastic scraper took about 5 minutes to get 90% of it off (not scratching through the bottom later- some bits of that just pulled off by hand to bare metal) and only a bit of residue was left
which you would remove with the stuff above, but i got the whole bonnet re painted both sides
new stuff about £40 i believe, on my list of bits to get
Re: Devil foam on bonnet underside?
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:17 pm
by Grrrmachine
Barry, what's with the two washer nozzle valves in your pics? Isn't there only supposed to be one?
Re: Devil foam on bonnet underside?
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:20 pm
by BenHar
Grrrmachine wrote:Barry, what's with the two washer nozzle valves in your pics? Isn't there only supposed to be one?
Dual wash wipe system. One for normal one for intensive.
Ben
Re: Devil foam on bonnet underside?
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:21 pm
by bss325i
Grrrmachine wrote:Barry, what's with the two washer nozzle valves in your pics? Isn't there only supposed to be one?
Cars with head lamp wash wipe also have intensive wash so two pipes and there for two one way valve run to the bonnet washer jets. One from the main tank and one from the smaller intensive wash tank.
BMW also sell screen wash which is clear/blue in colour and intensive wash which is green and should be used neat.
Re: Devil foam on bonnet underside?
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:26 pm
by polsta
didnt know that !! is it possible/easy to fit the intensive system just for the screen without the HLWW ?
Re: Devil foam on bonnet underside?
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:57 pm
by eko
I was thinking ofbuying some of this to do my bonnet.
Opinions?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/sound-proofin ... 43b72f5ea8
Re: Devil foam on bonnet underside?
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 5:17 pm
by ross_jsy
I would just buy the foam from BMW, it's already cut to shape and looks good
Re: Devil foam on bonnet underside?
Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 8:28 pm
by Idol
Isn't the M3 sound proofing the same price and better upgrade? Can't think what it looks like, but remember its nicer?
Re: Devil foam on bonnet underside?
Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:51 pm
by harry_p
m3 insulation is a single moulded piece, and is NLA, and are very expensive when they do appear.
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:02 pm
by polsta
has anyone got the part number for the foam
is it this ?
04 Sound insulation set 1 51481925437 $73.63
on real oem, when clicking on a 325i , it doesnt list the deadening , but it comes up for 318is as that above ?
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Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:06 am
by polsta
There are 2 different sets there, up to and after 89, plus the one I posted above as on a 91 is , so that's 3 different part numbers
anyone any idea why or if all 3 are the same or different ?
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Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 3:45 pm
by polsta
anyone ? not sure what part number to order
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:18 am
by Budgie325
I hoovered mine off. Literally dusted all away. I still need to get some glue remover out to get the residue off and then i'll replace it with the stuff above. Did notice this on ebay also:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-E30-3-SER ... 1c2f29d1c5
Wouldn't be hard to copy the shape, but my bonnet is profiled and that would be a pig to profile it perfectly. Might as well just get it from BMW if it's £45!
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:16 am
by pac1982
hate to sound like the sort of person who does a half arsed job but why bother getting all the old glue off if you gonna stick new foam on again?
surely the old glue wont cause a problem with the new foam sticking and once the new foam is in place no one will be any the wiser
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:34 am
by Cloggy Saint
/\ That. I didn't bother removing the old glue residue and the new foam is still firmly stuck in place 3 years on.
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 4:35 pm
by shedrool83
I don't have much time atm so ordered this off ebay and awaiting it's arrival.
Hope its up to oem quality .
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/370680012953? ... 1497.l2649
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 5:36 pm
by Topblag
Probably the same item the dealers are selling, prices are very similar.
Nice find.
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:06 pm
by polsta
Topblag wrote:
Probably the same item the dealers are selling, prices are very similar.
Nice find.
also being sold by motormec by the looks of it, who sell all sorts of bmw parts and the nice floor mats
but saying that, for same price you just aswell buy genuine bmw, but might even be exact same part from same supply ? post pics when it arrives
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:11 pm
by BenHar
polsta wrote:There are 2 different sets there, up to and after 89, plus the one I posted above as on a 91 is , so that's 3 different part numbers
anyone any idea why or if all 3 are the same or different ?
What car do you want it for?
Ben
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:49 pm
by polsta
BenHar wrote:polsta wrote:There are 2 different sets there, up to and after 89, plus the one I posted above as on a 91 is , so that's 3 different part numbers
anyone any idea why or if all 3 are the same or different ?
What car do you want it for?
Ben
a tech 1 1987 , as above if i go on that, it doesnt list any, but the 318is does but with a different part number to the 2 different ones on the cabby there, so its confusing
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:59 pm
by BenHar
polsta wrote:up to and after 89
polsta wrote:a tech 1 1987
It seems to me that you want the one that is "up to 89".
But if you put your VIN into the parts pages it should give you the exact part number.
Ben
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:08 pm
by Kedge
The 318iS one is covered in dimples whereas all the 6 cyl cars I've seen have smooth foam.
Just order the pre '89
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:13 pm
by polsta
will do, bit of confusion as to were 89+ different to both the early flat type and the is dimple type and id cabby was exact same as saloon
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:17 pm
by BenHar
put your VIN into the parts pages it should give you the exact part number.
Ben
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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 6:50 pm
by polsta
£38 from bmw, ordered some today
wierdly, it would not come up for the saloon 325i, only cabbys
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Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 3:30 pm
by shedrool83
polsta wrote:Topblag wrote:
Probably the same item the dealers are selling, prices are very similar.
Nice find.
also being sold by motormec by the looks of it, who sell all sorts of bmw parts and the nice floor mats
but saying that, for same price you just aswell buy genuine bmw, but might even be exact same part from same supply ? post pics when it arrives
Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 3:33 pm
by polsta
looks like/same as the latter 318is stuff
heres my old is, this wasnt the original foam
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Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 4:53 pm
by age
too lazy to read 2 pages about foam, but anyone take notice that the cut out for the throttle body isnt in either of the above pictures?