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Wheel Refurbishment.

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 1:23 pm
by Gert_8
Hi Guys,

I recently purchased a set of 15" BBS'.

I'd like to get these refurbished. I called a local firm in Wrexham called, the wheel restorer, which wasn't much help really as they guy told me no wheels have paint codes so they try to get the closest match to the colour on the wheel.... is this correct.

Does anyone have a code for Nagaro Silver?

The guy also harped on a about the silver lip and how this is polished, therefore expensive. I got the impression, perhaps this company wasn't the correct one to be talking to. Can anyone recommend someone in Wrexham or Chester, please?

I'd also appreciate an idea on the cost per wheel.

Cheers fellas.

:D

Re: Wheel Refurbishment.

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 1:41 pm
by Morat
A polished lip is polished.....sounds like you said BBS and he starting thinking about deep dish split rimz.

Re: Wheel Refurbishment.

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 1:42 pm
by Gert_8
diable wrote:Its about £50 or £60 per wheel caps extra. Not sure of anyone in your area though.

Sometimes it's cheaper to but a set refurbished but you didn't want to hear that.
Thanks Diable. They guy that sold them stated on two threads that they had been recently refurbished.... with all due respect, having had a quick look, just now as they have arrived at my office, they have been touched up using a marker pen... :mad:

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Re: Wheel Refurbishment.

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 1:44 pm
by Gert_8
Morat wrote:A polished lip is polished.....sounds like you said BBS and he starting thinking about deep dish split rimz.
Yes, Morat, he did mention deep dish, but I tried to explain these were orginal 15" alloys. Anyway, he's been sent some images, so I await the response.

cheers.

Re: Wheel Refurbishment.

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 1:54 pm
by polsta
you dont have to polish a lip, rememeber if you do its then bare metal needs a lot of looking after, salt etc ruins it, although they do look 8) ive got a set with polished lip, although yet to be used after the refurb, its nice to get a set refurbed looking minty , polished lip should cost around £20-25 a lip, a normal metal finisher can do that as opposed to a "wheel refurber" who will no dbout charge more

lepsons are a reputable company ive seen a few lovely looking results from posted on here,i should imagine they would automaticly know what paint etc

Re: Wheel Refurbishment.

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 2:00 pm
by Gert_8
Had a quote as follows:

The cost for a single colour as above on 15" wheels is :


2. £70

Per wheel inclusive

A two tone finish would be approx £20 more per wheel, and Centre caps painted and lacquered £10 each

So, £100 per wheel + £250 for the wheels and then four tyres.... Someone is having a laugh.
:D

Re: Wheel Refurbishment.

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 2:02 pm
by Gert_8
polsta wrote:you dont have to polish a lip, rememeber if you do its then bare metal needs a lot of looking after, salt etc ruins it, although they do look 8) ive got a set with polished lip, although yet to be used after the refurb, its nice to get a set refurbed looking minty , polished lip should cost around £20-25 a lip, a normal metal finisher can do that as opposed to a "wheel refurber" who will no dbout charge more

lepsons are a reputable company ive seen a few lovely looking results from posted on here,i should imagine they would automaticly know what paint etc
Hi Polsta, you got a number for Jepsons? Also can the offer a collect and deliver service?

Re: Wheel Refurbishment.

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 2:11 pm
by hennared323i

Re: Wheel Refurbishment.

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 2:18 pm
by Rtaylor2208
I paid £160 in April to get my fondmetals, soda blasted then powdercoated. £100 a wheel sounds very steep.

Re: Wheel Refurbishment.

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 2:18 pm
by polsta
let me know what they say, i have a set of standard 15 bbs i need to get done in oem silver, theres always been slight confusion on here what the exact paint code is i think ?

Re: Wheel Refurbishment.

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 3:20 pm
by daimlerman
Wheel refurb is labour intensive...hence the cost.

A trip to a motor factor will get you wet and dry abraisive paper and a few aerosols.
Several evenings spent with a bowl of water and small bits of paper to get between all the BBS spokes will soon convince you that the experts know what they are doing charging £50/£70 per wheel!
But you will have the satisfaction of being able to say,'I did them myself'....

Re: Wheel Refurbishment.

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 3:22 pm
by Gert_8
daimlerman wrote:Wheel refurb is labour intensive...hence the cost.

A trip to a motor factor will get you wet and dry abraisive paper and a few aerosols.
Several evenings spent with a bowl of water and small bits of paper to get between all the BBS spokes will soon convince you that the experts know what they are doing charging £50/£70 per wheel!
But you will have the satisfaction of being able to say,'I did them myself'....
I'd gladly pay £50-70 a corner, Damiler. I've been quoted £100 each.

Re: Wheel Refurbishment.

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 3:35 pm
by Gert_8
I've contacted Lepsons - they make my local guy seem reasonable...!

Lepsons quote (Wheel with tyre):

£80.00 per wheel.
Add £30.00 to this if Nagaro Silver is a special, non-stock colour (so add it!) and then it's a further £5.00 per centre cap. Don't forget the VAT on top of this.

Total per wheel = £115.00 + VAT
Total for a set = £552.00 (inc vat).

A collection charge of £80.00 + VAT is required if you want them to collect and deliver to you.

Looks like the job will be done by my chap in Wrexham. :D

I'd like Goldysing's and Rav's comments. I know goldy had this work done not so long ago.

:D

Re: Wheel Refurbishment.

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 3:36 pm
by Kedge
£100 a wheel is pants down, I don't think even Lepsons would charge that much. Doing a wheel two tone like the motorsport rims isn't that much harder, just needs the rims masking out. There's plenty of wheel refurbers out there, Google is your friend!
polsta wrote:let me know what they say, i have a set of standard 15 bbs i need to get done in oem silver, theres always been slight confusion on here what the exact paint code is i think ?
No confusion I've ever seen, it's Polaris silver! Same goes for the Hartges and probably Alpinas. My Hartges have had a quick tart up using Polaris, got some extra caps off Ferg which have never been touched and they match perfectly.

Re: Wheel Refurbishment.

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 3:39 pm
by Gert_8
Kedge wrote:£100 a wheel is pants down, I don't think even Lepsons would charge that much. Doing a wheel two tone like the motorsport rims isn't that much harder, just needs the rims masking out. There's plenty of wheel refurbers out there, Google is your friend!
polsta wrote:let me know what they say, i have a set of standard 15 bbs i need to get done in oem silver, theres always been slight confusion on here what the exact paint code is i think ?
No confusion I've ever seen, it's Polaris silver! Same goes for the Hartges and probably Alpinas. My Hartges have had a quick tart up using Polaris, got some extra caps off Ferg which have never been touched and they match perfectly.
Jepsons have just gone into the pants down business, then, Kedge! 8O

Re: Wheel Refurbishment.

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 3:40 pm
by Kedge
Keep shopping around!!

These cost me £50 a wheel and they were foooked! Dipped, straightened, polished rims, Nagaro centers, black inners and lacquered. Place has shut down now though, was in Coventry :(
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Re: Wheel Refurbishment.

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 3:42 pm
by Gert_8
Kedge wrote:Keep shopping around!!

These cost me £50 a wheel and they were foooked! Dipped, straightened, polished rims, Nagaro centers, black inners and lacquered. Place has shut down now though, was in Coventry :(
LOL! That made me laugh. :D

Re: Wheel Refurbishment.

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 3:50 pm
by polsta
Gert_8 wrote:I've contacted Lepsons - they make my local guy seem reasonable...!

Lepsons quote (Wheel with tyre):

£80.00 per wheel.
Add £30.00 to this if Nagaro Silver is a special, non-stock colour (so add it!) and then it's a further £5.00 per centre cap. Don't forget the VAT on top of this.

Total per wheel = £115.00 + VAT
Total for a set = £552.00 (inc vat).

A collection charge of £80.00 + VAT is required if you want them to collect and deliver to you.

Looks like the job will be done by my chap in Wrexham. :D

I'd like Goldysing's and Rav's comments. I know goldy had this work done not so long ago.

:D
what on earth are you asking them ?

it says for 15 wheels in standard finish without tyre £55 per wheel

all you need to do is take them to your local indipendant tyre place and bung someone a tenner to remove the 4 tyres for you

then add for the nogaro, then the caps

Re: Wheel Refurbishment.

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 3:56 pm
by Gert_8
polsta wrote:
Gert_8 wrote:I've contacted Lepsons - they make my local guy seem reasonable...!

Lepsons quote (Wheel with tyre):

£80.00 per wheel.
Add £30.00 to this if Nagaro Silver is a special, non-stock colour (so add it!) and then it's a further £5.00 per centre cap. Don't forget the VAT on top of this.

Total per wheel = £115.00 + VAT
Total for a set = £552.00 (inc vat).

A collection charge of £80.00 + VAT is required if you want them to collect and deliver to you.

Looks like the job will be done by my chap in Wrexham. :D

I'd like Goldysing's and Rav's comments. I know goldy had this work done not so long ago.

:D
what on earth are you asking them ?

it says for 15 wheels in standard finish without tyre £55 per wheel

all you need to do is take them to your local indipendant tyre place and bung someone a tenner to remove the 4 tyres for you

then add for the nogaro, then the caps
That's the response I was given to my enquiry.

I asked the cost of refurbishing 15" BBS with nagaro centres and caps...! 8O

Re: Wheel Refurbishment.

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 3:57 pm
by daimlerman
This is one I did a while back for my touring,laches rim and satin black centre;

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It's by no means perfect,there's marks showing through on the lip,but for an everyday car they will be fine,in fact one pair were in use last summer.Those two are waiting for me to save up enough pocket money for a pair of Toyo's!

Cost?
Perhaps a fiver on wet and dry,the laches paint was mixed as a 'special' for about £16,satin black was about £8 per aerosol(cannot remember how many I used for 4 wheels,but it would be at least two)and clear laquer about the same again.

Go on,have a go,you may,just,suprise yourself!

Re: Wheel Refurbishment.

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 4:00 pm
by Gert_8
daimlerman wrote:This is one I did a while back for my touring,laches rim and satin black centre;

Image

It's by no means perfect,there's marks showing through on the lip,but for an everyday car they will be fine,in fact one pair were in use last summer.Those two are waiting for me to save up enough pocket money for a pair of Toyo's!

Cost?
Perhaps a fiver on wet and dry,the laches paint was mixed as a 'special' for about £16,satin black was about £8 per aerosol(cannot remember how many I used for 4 wheels,but it would be at least two)and clear laquer about the same again.

Go on,have a go,you may,just,suprise yourself!
:D I'd have a go at that, but I won't be able to take the parking dings out..!

That looks great!

Re: Wheel Refurbishment.

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 4:11 pm
by Rav335uk
MMM, all them prices are taking the piss at £100 per corner.
I can get "Anthracite" which is the closest colour to the finish you wnt, have the lips polished too.
I did Steve;s {Topless} RC090's done and also Dave (oldroydsr4) a few weeks back in that colour, and it wasn't far off.
I could have these done for you. winkeye

Re: Wheel Refurbishment.

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 4:17 pm
by dips346

Re: Wheel Refurbishment.

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 4:22 pm
by polsta
Gert_8 wrote:
That's the response I was given to my enquiry.

I asked the cost of refurbishing 15" BBS with nagaro centres and caps...! 8O
what do you want them to be... polished rim, silver wheels, nogaro center caps ?

if you just got them done in silver with no polished lip, it would be £55 a wheel, then get a couple of aresol cans of nogaro from paints4u.com, and paint the caps yourself, they are a doddle to do,and some brand new bmw badges for them from bmw for about £3 each

Re: Wheel Refurbishment.

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 7:42 pm
by jas025
Mine were done at spit and polish using the leave the car with them service. Had to book a couple of months in advance for this.

Total cost was £301 including the VAT. It's more expensive to do it this way than just sending them the wheels.

Very pleased with the results.

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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:25 pm
by ndg
Try rimfurbish in Birmingham:
http://www.rimfurbish.co.uk/

They are the refurb side of Rimstock, who supply lot's of OEM's in the UK (think Aston Martin). Not too bad on price, and I like the fact that they use a production line arrangement.

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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:13 pm
by ah
I used these a few years ago,they pick up deliver back,£50 a corner!
http://www.wheelrefurbishing.co.uk/

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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:46 pm
by DanThe
There is a place near Chester that Bob_S does some work at occasionally, a pm to him would get you some better info.
Didsnt realise you were Wrexham way :)

Re:

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:48 pm
by Gert_8
DanThe wrote:There is a place near Chester that Bob_S does some work at occasionally, a pm to him would get you some better info.
Didsnt realise you were Wrexham way :)
Thanks Dan, I'll search and PM. Cheers. Thanks to all you other guys too- very useful info.

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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 3:25 pm
by kieran325
Yeah Bob_S did my Clubsport alloys.