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why dont just pay the £40-60

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 1:27 am
by rich318i
why dont people just pay that money to just get a full diagnosis and stop guessing the problems and buying parts that are not faulty

Re: why dont just pay the £40-60

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 1:33 am
by Kos
on which car ?

Re: why dont just pay the £40-60

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 1:39 am
by rich318i
on all e30's with and without conversions

Re: why dont just pay the £40-60

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 6:28 am
by Grrrmachine
I've never heard of anyone offering a full engine diagnosis for that sort of money.

Of course, if you're suggesting someone takes their car to a garage for an OBD diagnostic reading, which would cost about 40-60 quid, then that's fine; you deserve to pay that sort of money to learn that E30s don't have a proper OBD system :D

Re: why dont just pay the £40-60

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 9:06 am
by pac1982
lol silly boy

Re: why dont just pay the £40-60

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 9:30 am
by Gert_8
willnz wrote:I am also wondering where you got the idea that e30's can be plugged in and diagnosed for all issues?? 8O The info available via the diagnostic port is about as basic as you can get.

In any case, you cant just plug a car in and take the readout as gospel, often the error displayed has to be backtracked to the actual problem, not the displayed one, this comes with experience. This is why a proper thorough diagnosis takes time and has associated costs. All you will get for 40-60 quid is a spare parts fitter pushing buttons with no clue as to what the report actually means.
This. And besides, it's much more fun finding a solution through the forum amongst knowledgeable friends..!

Re: why dont just pay the £40-60

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 10:01 am
by Grrrmachine
I'm going to start charging 40-60 quid every time I post this now (split with willnz, of course)

http://www.e30zone.net/e30zonewiki/inde ... oubleshoot

Re: why dont just pay the £40-60

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 11:00 am
by bmw9818
if you have an e30, it is probably a neccessity to be mechanically minded, my ol mans a mech and ive learnt loads fixing up my e30 and if anything goes wrong (head gasket, suspension issue, brakes anything, i would never go to a garage and pay someone else to do anything,

with the amount of stuff ive done to mine if i took it into a garage id be completely bankrupt!

id find the issue and do it myself btw most parts that dont need replacing at that time would probably need replacing in the future as its probably gonna fail soon anyway

Re: why dont just pay the £40-60

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:49 pm
by G-Bear
Gert_8 wrote:
willnz wrote:I am also wondering where you got the idea that e30's can be plugged in and diagnosed for all issues?? 8O The info available via the diagnostic port is about as basic as you can get.

In any case, you cant just plug a car in and take the readout as gospel, often the error displayed has to be backtracked to the actual problem, not the displayed one, this comes with experience. This is why a proper thorough diagnosis takes time and has associated costs. All you will get for 40-60 quid is a spare parts fitter pushing buttons with no clue as to what the report actually means.
This. And besides, it's much more fun finding a solution through the forum amongst knowledgeable friends..!
A bit of Zone love... Go on the Zone

Re: why dont just pay the £40-60

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:54 pm
by rhubarb
rich318i wrote:why dont people just pay that money to just get a full diagnosis and stop guessing the problems and buying parts that are not faulty
Because according to another thread on here all mechanics and garages are bodgers and robbers!

I get phone calls all the time, along the lines of, I've changed the MAF and EGR and ECU and its no better etc..You ask them why, and they say friends etc or the internet have suggested it, by they won't pay someone to come out and diagnose it proper :mad:

Re: why dont just pay the £40-60

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 2:24 pm
by Barx325i
rich318i wrote:why dont people just pay that money to just get a full diagnosis and stop guessing the problems and buying parts that are not faulty
how about a 12p LED? a penchant for morse is free :)

Re: why dont just pay the £40-60

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 2:35 pm
by verde
rich318i wrote:why dont people just pay that money to just get a full diagnosis and stop guessing the problems and buying parts that are not faulty
If i paid 60 quid every time something went wrong on my car, id need to sell the car to fund it. Theres been maybe 4 or 5 faults recently and a diagnosis probably wouldnt have picked them up. That would have been 300 quid on a " doctors appointment " that wouldnt have helped for something i fixed myself with the help of the swear jar and some spanners. Got to remember, some of us are scumbags and cant afford that shit, so we just need to get to know our way round a toolbox, you dont need to phone the AA every time you get a flat tyre

Re: why dont just pay the £40-60

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 9:51 pm
by e30mtech
rich318i wrote:why dont people just pay that money to just get a full diagnosis and stop guessing the problems and buying parts that are not faulty
why not get a haynes manual or something similar and a multimeter and check readings, that will be much more accurate than a diagnostics reading, why pay 40-60 to find out something you can get for free on here?

Re: why dont just pay the £40-60

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 10:07 pm
by Topblag
rich318i wrote:why dont people just pay that money to just get a full diagnosis and stop guessing the problems and buying parts that are not faulty
:hammer:

Re: why dont just pay the £40-60

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 10:11 pm
by Speedtouch
Barx325i wrote:
rich318i wrote:why dont people just pay that money to just get a full diagnosis and stop guessing the problems and buying parts that are not faulty
how about a 12p LED? a penchant for morse is free :)
I take it you're referring to the 'Stomp test', alas only available on US-spec E30s, but theoretically possible to rig up on Euro-spec ones?

Re: why dont just pay the £40-60

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 10:25 pm
by Barx325i
That's the one, I did read fault codes on a 325i a long long while back, more than that I don't recall, I don't remember what i was trying to sort & I've not needed to since.

I'll have a look..

Re: why dont just pay the £40-60

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 12:03 am
by magpie
that's my ecu,afm and icv sales gone down the pan then.....




not :D

Re: why dont just pay the £40-60

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 12:09 am
by Barx325i
aye :D