E30 Zone

Went snowboarding this week, flew into Munich and drove to Alps from there so a stop off at the new BMW Museum & BMW Welt was a must and I have to say, it's pretty awesome. Tons of pics - enjoy.




Right at the entrance they had this E30 Motorsport Cab - fans can exhibit their cars here each month. Why they let a urine headlamped molested turkmobile in at the FRONT of the BMW World HQ is beyond me.




Early aero engine room.


Motorsport engine room! F1 and other engines here.




Nice manifold.



Check out the flywheel on all these things...


Very old 4.


Another early engine but with tons of Carbonfiber and a stunning exhaust.



This isn't the LeMans McLaren F1 motor is it? The machined bulkhead was seriously impressive.




Motorsport tweaked V8 from the current E90 M3.



More S52 M-Goodness.





1.5 Liter 1500BHP F1 Motor. Those numbers are insane.




The clutch on that thing was tiny.



This beauty had it's own room.





Literally stacks of old 6s & 7s”¦!



The 3-Series room! A 3-Series from each era but not the greatest variants of each model to be fair.



This Laser Blue Touring was there though, an iX from the side skirts. 'Probably' rust free.




Original clay scale styling model of the E30 - looks like a facelift.




Cool rear model badge display.



Modern passenger car engines. All the zone faces are here! No M42 tho - too rare to squander on a silly exhibition...


Boat anchor.


M42's cheaper cousin.


And this relic looks familair!



Onto Zs and classics - This is one of my all time fave cars.





Cool.



Concept that led to the M1.



Cabrio 8-Series - never released because of the economic crash. Didn't stop them making the X6 & X6M cars last year tho did it...



Motorsport room.







And a video walk around - Fullscreen it it's HD!
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M-Room!


Engines first.


Viedo - The first engine I don't recognise but it's one of the prettiest / nicely made. Fullscreen it it's HD!
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M-Cars.






This ones quite rapid apparently.


This is a serious bit of kit.



Last but not least - seriously minty.






There was tons more stuff, worth a trip. Loads more pics but this is the best of the stuff.

Great pics,I've been wanting to go for years but never got round to it

Looks like a great way to spend a few hours. Shocked to find no 325 sport in the M car exhibit !

I was more shocked there was no 318iS. I asked the tour guide chick why it wasn't there and they said the board couldn't sanction the cost of displaying such a rare and special car - even for BMWs own museum.

What about that dodgy E30 Cabrio in the front of the whole building!

Nice pics - thanks for sharing!

Thanks Ratch, enjoyed that.

Royalratch wrote:I was more shocked there was no 318iS. I asked the tour guide chick why it wasn't there and they said the board couldn't sanction the cost of displaying such a rare and special car - even for BMWs own museum.

What about that dodgy E30 Cabrio in the front of the whole building!

Nice pictures mate! Those F1 engines look awesome

Why no M42 though?!

awsome thanks for posting !! that miglia editon 2002 is something else- id love one of those babies one day

I like the allen-key wheel bolts on that 325i cab.

Speedtouch wrote:I like the allen-key wheel bolts on that 325i cab.

internal drive wheel nuts.

Great pics, thanks for posting them up

Royalratch wrote: This isn't the LeMans McLaren F1 motor is it? The machined bulkhead was seriously impressive.

No, it is actually an LMR V12

Royalratch wrote: Motorsport tweaked V8 from the current E90 M3.

wrong again, its is an ALMS V8 from an e46

Royalratch wrote: More S52 M-Goodness.

once again, wrong, its actually an m50 engine, a 2.0 from BTTC or ETCC. these were used before the S42's

Royalratch wrote: 1.5 Liter 1500BHP F1 Motor. Those numbers are insane.

wrong again, thats a 3.0 V10 F1 engine, circa 900bhp

the 1.5 engines that made 1500bhp were M10's used in the 80's as driven by Nelson Piquet

that very car is in the museum just before the motorsport room on your left


anyway, nice enough pics.

Did you go to the M1 restaurant at the top or to BMW welt ?

this is the 1500bhp F1 engine



and the car it was in

Corrected as always

Thanks for sharing, some of those pics are like porn

good pics Ratch. would lovwe to visit there one day

Rav335uk wrote:Corrected as always

The funny thing is rav, all the engines have the correct information written down

The v8 ratchet says is from the e90 is this one



I took the picture 4 years ago, it's says clearly what it is and from which year, in this case 2001

[quote="Rav335uk"]Corrected as always [/quote

I guess there's always one cock that has to spoil the good will. Did you see your 'engine'' in the marine engineering room lol.

Regards the V8 - I bet it spawned the E90 V8.

I just went on what they roughly look like, I could also have easily memorised the plaque resting beside each engine but I'm not that much of a loser... cough... enthusiast.

Royalratch wrote:

Rav335uk wrote:Corrected as always [/quote

I guess there's always one c**k that has to spoil the good will. Did you see your 'engine'' in the marine engineering room lol.

Regards the V8 - I bet it spawned the E90 V8.

I just went on what they roughly look like, I could also have easily memorised the plaque resting beside each engine but I'm not that much of a loser... cough... enthusiast.

Come come Ratch, it's all in jest, you should know that.

Yes, I spotted the most reliable engine ever in your pics.

Not here to spoil your "Goodwill", but atleast get the info your passing on to us right.

Royalratch wrote:Original clay scale styling model of the E30 - looks like a facelift.

Is it not a chromie with the smaller rear valance.

Royalratch wrote:

Rav335uk wrote:Corrected as always

I guess there's always one c**k that has to spoil the good will. Did you see your 'engine'' in the marine engineering room lol.

Regards the V8 - I bet it spawned the E90 V8.

I just went on what they roughly look like, I could also have easily memorised the plaque resting beside each engine but I'm not that much of a loser... cough... enthusiast.

My engines are there

Why does the fact i know what im looking at make me a cock ? It's not memorised, its knowledge.

As for the V8's, they have nothing in common apart from the fact they are V8's


Always up on your high horse and can never admit you got it wrong, you are actually ignorant or blind if you missed the info and year info on the engines.

Rav335uk wrote:
Not here to spoil your "Goodwill", but atleast get the info your passing on to us right.

Exactly !

It's not memorised it's knowledge? Can you not see how stupid that line is?

Kok, You are all geek, no spanner.

This thread was just about sharing some pix. not an opportunity for you to willy wave. I'm sure PacerPete or anyone else could have corrected me but they're just not that bothered.

You however, are always bothered.

Rav - do one you cheerleader.

Sanchez wrote:

Royalratch wrote:Original clay scale styling model of the E30 - looks like a facelift.

Is it not a chromie with the smaller rear valance.

Dead right - pre-facelift.

Royalratch wrote: I'm sure PacerPete or anyone else could have corrected me but they're just not that bothered.

.

He's probably given up trying to correct you Ratch, as you're always "right"

Royalratch wrote:It's not memorised it's knowledge? Can you not see how stupid that line is?

Kok, You are all geek, no spanner.

This thread was just about sharing some pix. not an opportunity for you to willy wave. I'm sure PacerPete or anyone else could have corrected me but they're just not that bothered.

You however, are always bothered.

Rav - do one you cheerleader.

And all knowledge come from learning and remembering, so memorised.

You'd be the first to jump on my back if it got some thing wrong. You're stupid for getting all that wrong when it's easy to remember simple details if you have a bit of intelligence

A good thread with Ok pictures spoilt by miss information and an OP who's not able to admit he got it wrong

See ya !

Cool pics Ratch. That touring is an IX, says all wheel drive behind it in the pic

Sanchez wrote:

Royalratch wrote:Original clay scale styling model of the E30 - looks like a facelift.

Is it not a chromie with the smaller rear valance.

Looks like a very early chromie, same front end as my 323i.

Sanchez wrote:

Royalratch wrote:Original clay scale styling model of the E30 - looks like a facelift.

Is it not a chromie with the smaller rear valance.

rear valance? where's that then?
looks like a facelift front bumper to me, but a very early front bib, like on my A reg Baur

Ratch: chill mate, it wasn't criticism, it was constructive helpful correction imo

thanks again for your post, interesting stuff

The pictures are excellent, and having the info that goes with them makes it all worthwhile. So thanks to Ratch and Kos for the double-teaming effort they put in for the rest of us

Grrrmachine wrote:The pictures are excellent, and having the info that goes with them makes it all worthwhile. So thanks to Ratch and Kos for the double-teaming effort they put in for the rest of us

Thanks and you're welcome

Itching to go now! Great pics!

awesome pics ratch, sport evo looks amazing

adit wrote:

Sanchez wrote:

Royalratch wrote:Original clay scale styling model of the E30 - looks like a facelift.

Is it not a chromie with the smaller rear valance.

rear valance? where's that then?
looks like a facelift front bumper to me, but a very early front bib, like on my A reg Baur

Ratch: chill mate, it wasn't criticism, it was constructive helpful correction imo

thanks again for your post, interesting stuff

That is a pre sept '85 model.

No doubt on of the original clay models.

Kos wrote:

Royalratch wrote: More S52 M-Goodness.

once again, wrong, its actually an m50 engine, a 2.0 from BTTC or ETCC. these were used before the S42's

Both wrong, its based on an M54 whatever is Motorsport designation is, P54 by the looks of things.

Twin vanos means it would have to be either an M52tu or an M54.

The fact that is says P54 in one of the pics would be fair to say its the latter.

EDIT: And the alloy block is a big giveaway.

Kos wrote:

Royalratch wrote: More S52 M-Goodness.

once again, wrong, its actually an m50 engine, a 2.0 from BTTC or ETCC. these were used before the S42's

M54 actually, or to be completely accurate P54B20