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... On the road outside your house as long as its taxed and tested? Or does it need to be insured too?

Not 100% sure but I don't see why not.

Any car on the highway has to be insured I believe

Surely only if its being driven!?

Thought as much.

From the start of June,every car has to be insured or sorned off the road,the insurance companys will be rubbng there hands.

My daughters car was cat c parked outside her house, taxed and insured. She got a notice to say move it or it would be towed within 24 hours. While she was out it was towed, straight to the crusher.
She fought for justice but lost, the council said it was a hazard to pedestrians!

Im talking a broken headlight and bent bonnet. nothing major tbh.

turk wrote:Im talking a broken headlight and bent bonnet. nothing major tbh.

Cat C?

Hah, yup... hidden damage to chassis. Im gonna break it so the cat status doesnt bother me.

mattrs wrote:Surely only if its being driven!?

Nope, whenever a car is on the public highway it has to be insured, this has always been the case. Public highway doesn't just mean the road, it also extends to places which have unrestricted public access such as industrial estates, supermarket car parks, pavements and local authority owned land.

Someone I know on another forum had their car remove and crushed after it was left untaxed on a large grass verge outside their house while they were on holiday. The 'off road' part of the sorn doesn't just mean of the road, it means 'on private property'

harry_p wrote:

mattrs wrote:Surely only if its being driven!?

Nope, whenever a car is on the public highway it has to be insured, this has always been the case. Public highway doesn't just mean the road, it also extends to places which have unrestricted public access such as industrial estates, supermarket car parks, pavements and local authority owned land.

Someone I know on another forum had their car remove and crushed after it was left untaxed on a large grass verge outside their house while they were on holiday. The 'off road' part of the sorn doesn't just mean of the road, it means 'on private property'

I find that very suprising... you 100% sure? I mean if its not being driven then its no more dangerous and likely to evoke a claim than say a wall or a tree!

Macas post said as from June, but your saying thats allways the case!? I'm intrigued, can anyone else say for sure?

harry_p wrote:

mattrs wrote:Surely only if its being driven!?

Nope, whenever a car is on the public highway it has to be insured, this has always been the case. Public highway doesn't just mean the road, it also extends to places which have unrestricted public access such as industrial estates, supermarket car parks, pavements and local authority owned land.

Someone I know on another forum had their car remove and crushed after it was left untaxed on a large grass verge outside their house while they were on holiday. The 'off road' part of the sorn doesn't just mean of the road, it means 'on private property'

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In simple terms,any vehicle kept on or close to a road needs to have the correct,up to date documentation.

'Road',in this context includes any area that the general public are likely to stray onto without realising that the area is private property.So this can include forecourt areas between a footpath and a house.A vehicle that is uninsured can give rise to a claim against it's owner if a protuding sharp edge damages a passing pedestrian,for example.

To be 100% safe,a SORN'ed,un-insured vehicle should be parked in such a position that it is obvious to even a council employee that it is on private property,so behind a gate,or a locked parking post,or in a building is a very good idea.

I do hope that any council employee's amongst us will take the previous paragraph in the way I intended,not as a deliberate insult!

E30BeemerLad wrote:

harry_p wrote:

mattrs wrote:Surely only if its being driven!?

Nope, whenever a car is on the public highway it has to be insured, this has always been the case. Public highway doesn't just mean the road, it also extends to places which have unrestricted public access such as industrial estates, supermarket car parks, pavements and local authority owned land.

Someone I know on another forum had their car remove and crushed after it was left untaxed on a large grass verge outside their house while they were on holiday. The 'off road' part of the sorn doesn't just mean of the road, it means 'on private property'

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With respect, it sounded a little like hear say, so i was asking if anyone new for sure.

So aside from crash damage and non taxed cars?


If I have a car with tax and mot in reasonable condition it has to be insured? Sorry if I am being pedantic but i don't think that's the case.

If your car is NOT on private property (i.e. NOT parked on a driveway, garage, private land) it has to be taxed, mot'd and insured. A SORN'd vehicle cannot be left outside your house parked on the road. Even if a car has tax & MOT, it must be insured if left on the 'road'

mattrs wrote:

E30BeemerLad wrote:

harry_p wrote: Nope, whenever a car is on the public highway it has to be insured, this has always been the case. Public highway doesn't just mean the road, it also extends to places which have unrestricted public access such as industrial estates, supermarket car parks, pavements and local authority owned land.

Someone I know on another forum had their car remove and crushed after it was left untaxed on a large grass verge outside their house while they were on holiday. The 'off road' part of the sorn doesn't just mean of the road, it means 'on private property'

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With respect, it sounded a little like hear say, so i was asking if anyone new for sure.

So aside from crash damage and non taxed cars?


If I have a car with tax and mot in reasonable condition it has to be insured? Sorry if I am being pedantic but i don't think that's the case.

If you keep it in a place that could be considered to be a 'public road',yes,it must be insured,and you are commiting an offence if you do not insure it.

Note from my post above,a 'public road' could be private property,but if the public can stray onto it,it is considered to be a 'public road'!

But sorn means no tax. I still maintain with tax, mot and no damage its ok! (I know the op was asking about cat c damage btw). Please correct me if iI'm wrong

mattrs wrote:But sorn means no tax. I still maintain with tax, mot and no damage its ok! (I know the op was asking about cat c damage btw). Please correct me if iI'm wrong

I've tried,when you get 'done' for no insurance,please do not blame me!

I have several Cat 'C' cars here, and as long as they are still Cat C, and haven't had a VIC and got their V5's back, then as far as the DVLA is concerned they don't seem to exist.
When is a car a car?

I have motor traders insurance so that's not gonna happen.

Have you or anyone else been done for no insurance when not driving?

mattrs wrote:I have motor traders insurance so that's not gonna happen.

Have you or anyone else been done for no insurance when not driving?

I dont know how but I bet you would get a nice fine at least, they would also lift the car, bunch of ers

The whole insurance thing is being twisted and turned so the police can dish out as many fines as possible. It has always been the driver who is insured in this country, other european countries you just insure the car. It looks like we will have both soon...

If you know a trader then bung them a few quid to put the reg on their policy, it will then be on the MID which means its legal to be parked on the road

DanThe wrote: If you know a trader then bung them a few quid to put the reg on their policy, it will then be on the MID which means its legal to be parked on the road

Anyone want a few quid ???

Its best to use somebody local for obvious reasons

Hah, was trying my luck

ps- Dan, seeing as have the biggest chromie bumpers on the zone surely I should be invitied to join the zones most exclusive club that is CR24v, right???

All aplications have to be passed by the 3 founding (and only) members mate. Them's the rules. Make you case by pm to any of the founders and we will discuss your suitability.