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Posted: **Sat Nov 13, 2010 11:56 pm**

my next winter resto is a 1985 H23 it will be sympathetic and done correctly to make it as new,
does anyone have any info on one of these turds ?

any pics would be awesome

Posted: **Sun Nov 14, 2010 12:06 am**

Ask Ata

Posted: **Sun Nov 14, 2010 12:09 am**

Rav335uk wrote:Ask Ata

I have the build sheet ect for this turd, I don't need one making !

Posted: **Sun Nov 14, 2010 12:11 am**

I thought I would get that in b4 anyone else did.
When did you aquire this 5hi77er then?

Posted: **Sun Nov 14, 2010 12:13 am**

Rav335uk wrote:Ask Ata

behave

Posted: **Sun Nov 14, 2010 12:15 am**

e30ata wrote:
Rav335uk wrote:Ask Ata
behave

I knew you'd be watching

Steve, make sure it has

Hottunning manifold
Hartge alloys
Hartge steering wheel and KNOB
Hartge Rocker cover
Hartge exhaust tail box.

Posted: **Sun Nov 14, 2010 12:55 am**

^^^^

I wonder where certain zoners find these rare beasts. You certainly have people in the know steve

good luck with it. i belive p40 is on offer at halfrauds at the moment

Posted: **Sun Nov 14, 2010 7:52 am**

e30topless wrote:my next winter resto is a 1985 H23 it will be sympathetic and done correctly to make it as new,

Good man Steve. Is this the one that was on eBay and had been converted from manual to auto??

e30topless wrote:does anyone have any info on one of these turds?

Someone should have a good knowledge, just don't waste your time asking Bird's. You'd be better-off going straight to Hartge.de. I can't remember the lad's name over there, I'll keep wracking my brain on that one, but he's certainly more approachable/forthcoming than Bird's.

Good luck with the car - keep us posted.

Posted: **Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:01 am**

not a lot of info, but some bits and peices

http://www.rtsauto.com/different-bmw-e3 ... schnitzer/

Posted: **Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:04 am**

StuBeeDoo wrote: Good man Steve. Is this the one that was on eBay and had been converted from manual to auto??

which one was that Stu ? don't think i have seen it ?

Posted: **Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:08 am**

pukar wrote:not a lot of info, but some bits and peices

http://www.rtsauto.com/different-bmw-e3 ... schnitzer/

thanks ! some really nice alpina porn there too

a few sneaky pics here,

I have seen quite a few H23's have a red rocker cover was this how they were?

Posted: **Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:08 am**

Posted: **Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:13 am**

cheers Theo , that looks very similar to the H28 that is on the zone ,they look great In white

Posted: **Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:16 am**

I think i've seen this one steve

Posted: **Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:22 am**

Did you buy that from a guy in N.Ireland? It was sold on ebay about 2 years ago, I considered buying it but decided against it. It might even be the same car that was also for sale in 2006 - again, I briefly contemplated buying it but the owning it but the owner said the LSD and dogleg box were AWOL.

Posted: **Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:25 am**

e30topless wrote:which one was that Stu ? don't think i have seen it ?

Can't find it now. Sorry.

Posted: **Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:29 am**

Theo325 wrote:Did you buy that from a guy in N.Ireland? It was sold on ebay about 2 years ago, I considered buying it but decided against it. It might even be the same car that was also for sale in 2006 - again, I briefly contemplated buying it but the owning it but the owner said the LSD and dogleg box were AWOL.

it came from Dublin earlier this year it could very well be be the same car ?
I haven't checked the LSD yet and never thought about it having a dogleg box,
I have another H23 that will be a donor for the build

Posted: **Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:34 am**

Will make a lovely car, I look forward to seeing your progress.

IIRC it had aircon originally, but the system was partially removed. That's if it is indeed the car that was for sale in Essex in 2006. I'm certain it's the same car which was sold 2 years ago, although it looks a bit cleaner now!

Posted: **Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:37 am**

I'm sure the one on eBay had been converted to auto because of a problem with the dog-leg box (and, I presume, inability to source a replacement).
Can't remember what, if anything, was in the listing about the LSD though.

I'm getting old - I could be remembering it wrong. It was possibly just a common-or-garden 323i I saw.

Posted: **Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:38 am**

Sounds like the Alpina C1 2.3 being discussed here: http://www.e30zone.net/modules.php?name ... c&t=184568

Posted: **Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:39 am**

Theo325 wrote:Will make a lovely car, I look forward to seeing your progress.

IIRC it had aircon originally, but the system was partially removed. That's if it is indeed the car that was for sale in Essex in 2006. I'm certain it's the same car which was sold 2 years ago, although it looks a bit cleaner now!

it was "restored"

but I'm afraid it's not as i would like it ,

should keep me busy this winter !

Posted: **Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:40 am**

So what's this other donor H23 then?

Posted: **Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:53 am**

Theo325 wrote:So what's this other donor H23 then?

I have yet to see this car, I am told that is rotted badly and is only any good for parts, I will decide when it arrives.. this turd is white and in somerset,

Posted: **Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:50 am**

Steve you are a coont when it comes to finding rare turds.

Looking forward to the build thread. I will have a drive over when you get started mate.

Posted: **Sun Nov 14, 2010 11:51 am**

another hartge build

did you sell the cab? if both cars have lsd's let me know the ratio of the one you won't be using if it's for sale

Posted: **Sun Nov 14, 2010 11:57 am**

Theo325 wrote:Sounds like the Alpina C1 2.3 being discussed here: http://www.e30zone.net/modules.php?name ... c&t=184568

That's the one!

Posted: **Sun Nov 14, 2010 12:49 pm**

Red is the Best colour.

I know its H26 buts it the same colour

Posted: **Sun Nov 14, 2010 1:01 pm**

That bottom pic of the red one is poor sex. Nice pics Blitz.

Posted: **Sun Nov 14, 2010 1:40 pm**

Ohhh,they did 'proper' door one's as well!

Where's the diddler?

Posted: **Sun Nov 14, 2010 2:40 pm**

http://homepage3.nifty.com/E30/h23EnginOeverhaul.htm

Posted: **Sun Nov 14, 2010 4:18 pm**

just noticed the tyre size on the red h26 195/50/16 thats a wierd size

Posted: **Sun Nov 14, 2010 4:32 pm**

jonny323i wrote:just noticed the tyre size on the red h26 195/50/16 thats a wierd size

I fit Tyres to an early A reg alpina 2.5 about 6 months ago. Still had the original spare that was 195,50x16. Funny this is that this size hasn't been used on anything really until the new Clio in 2008.

Posted: **Sun Nov 14, 2010 7:34 pm**

Blitz wrote:Red is the Best colour.

it certainly is

I even think this pulls it off with black wheels !

Posted: **Sun Nov 14, 2010 7:46 pm**

e30topless wrote:
Blitz wrote:Red is the Best colour.
it certainly is

I even think this pulls it off with black wheels !

porn.

Posted: **Sun Nov 14, 2010 7:48 pm**

I think they look better with the old type boot spoiler and just he front spoiler, no rear skirt or side skirts. Fingers crossed the unseen donor turd has the earlier spoiler fitted.

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