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How many Hartges on the Zone

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 2:46 am
by HartgeH27
Jimbob made an interesting point on another posting which has led me to start this topic.

How many genuine properly converted or manufactured Hartges do we have on the Zone ??? Not E30s with Hartge lumps in them but genuine H23 - 26 - 27 27SP and 35s etc ????

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 7:40 am
by H35-IAN
well i have a genuine H26 and a awsome h35 my man! :cool:

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 7:34 pm
by Cotty
I thought there were 3 Hartge tourers made, at least one should be on the zone.

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:09 pm
by HartgeH27
Cotty180 wrote:I thought there were 3 Hartge tourers made, at least one should be on the zone.
Yep and I personally know of two Tourers and three more H26s BUT how many are Zone members cars ?

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:23 pm
by Cotty
HartgeH27 wrote:
Cotty180 wrote:I thought there were 3 Hartge tourers made
Yep
Now thats an upgrade I would like

I would love to go back in time with a suitcase full of cash and make it 4
HartgeH27 wrote: I personally know of two Tourers and three more H26s BUT how many are Zone members cars ?
Any idea why they are not members?
I think

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 9:52 pm
by HartgeH27
One of the H26s is now down in Southern Ireland/Eire, another is down in Cornwall. The tourers one is a member but the other I do not know its location at all, Big E has the H35 and an H26. There is another H35 around but last I saw of it was being advertised in TBMW a few years ago and it looked a little sorry.
The daddy of them all the H35S lurks somewhere and I would love to see and ride in that.

http://www.tuningauto.narod.ru/company/ ... H35-24.htm


But back to the point, come on guys are any more of you on the Zone.

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 3:55 pm
by Karan
ive seen a genunine h35-24 in red at Aces thats the one with the e28 m5 lump

On another note, the white car u are talking about Iain... was that the H36 in white owned by a woman which had alpina livery and wheels on it?....if so.... yes it was a sorry state!

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 5:49 pm
by Demlotcrew

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 5:51 pm
by Andy335Touring
How much !

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 8:51 pm
by pacerpete
That is what you call a mark up .. Martin Pearse (MCP) bought that car off the previous owner (Wendy Lynam ) for Ԛ£11000 a few months ago !

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 8:56 pm
by E30BeemerLad
the dirty dog, that's mental mark-up :nono: :screwy:

so is that the E34 M5 lump in that, like what's going in Karan's? :twisted:

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 9:13 pm
by Simon
pacerpete wrote:That is what you call a mark up .. Martin Pearse (MCP) bought that car off the previous owner (Wendy Lynam ) for Ԛ£11000 a few months ago !
C76jon went to view this car before buying his 31k evo II, he wasn't impressed with the car at all, it seemed messed with, it's not the done thing to a car that they only ever made 6 of! Oh and it was called Hetty!! :mad:

Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 11:15 am
by H35-IAN
Theres good money in Proper cars!! :cool:

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 1:57 pm
by M5pilot
20+ grand!

Damn, you could make one brand new for that with the later 3.8 M5 engine in it (brand new engine aswell).

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 7:15 pm
by 325iSportMark
Just out of curiosity, would Birds still do a full conversion on an e30, and would it then be classed as a 'genuine' Hartge? Assuming you had the funds, obviously :bling:

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 9:00 pm
by HartgeH27
325iSportMark wrote:Just out of curiosity, would Birds still do a full conversion on an e30, and would it then be classed as a 'genuine' Hartge? Assuming you had the funds, obviously :bling:
The plain and simple answer is NO !!

I have spoken to Birds on various occasions and had to get a 'theoretical rebuild cost' for insurance purposes for my agreed valuation of Ԛ£15k.

Kevin Bird has stated that the parts are not available to rebuild a full H27 in either Saloon or Cabrio form. An H26 is still feasible as this is mainly head/breathing/suspension conversion.

If you scoured around, mainly in Europe you might find all the bits and it would be an interesting project.

Again for insurance purposes, Kevin quoted Ԛ£10k for a full H27 conversion (if the parts were available).

Pricey or what ???? LOL

Iain

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 3:29 am
by SCOTT325SE
of those 6 that were built, how many are ACTUALLY still alive? I bet at least one has been parked backwards into a wall or off a cliff somewhere!

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 3:39 am
by mgarrett29
I have a genuine H27 which was fully restored 18 months ago by Gary Perfect, ex Hartge Engineer for Birds. It has done 11k miles since and I am in the process of selling, or at least considering it.

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 6:13 am
by usman
how much are these cars actually worth? and mgarret29, if you were to sell yours how much would it be?

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 8:22 am
by HartgeH27
usman wrote:how much are these cars actually worth? and mgarret29, if you were to sell yours how much would it be?
Good question, there is no real guideline, much rarer than Alpinas but of similar specification. Really its down to how much someone wants to pay. A fully sorted H27 should fetch top money, more than a sport and perhaps M3 money.

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 5:24 pm
by M3H35s-24
I have a red M3 with M88 engine built by Hartge.Built in late 1987.
When i asked Herrn Vogel at Hartge he said that they only made cars with
the m88 3,5l engine.It is strange that the white car has the 3,6l engine.

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 6:32 pm
by H35-IAN
good to here that m8ey!! about the h35s-24 i have the original H35 welcome to the Zone my friend! greetings from the uk!! :wink: :wink:
So good to here other people with HARTGE cars!! :cool:

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 8:18 pm
by usman
HartgeH27 wrote:
usman wrote:how much are these cars actually worth? and mgarret29, if you were to sell yours how much would it be?
Good question, there is no real guideline, much rarer than Alpinas but of similar specification. Really its down to how much someone wants to pay. A fully sorted H27 should fetch top money, more than a sport and perhaps M3 money.
i see

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 4:41 pm
by Karan
M5pilot wrote:20+ grand!

Damn, you could make one brand new for that with the later 3.8 M5 engine in it (brand new engine aswell).
yeh but it wouldnt be a hartge H36....

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 5:33 pm
by H35-IAN
well said karan!! :wink: someone with a brain for good power!!

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 10:56 pm
by Watty
:D I've got a H27

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 11:55 pm
by Geoff
I miss it soo much!!!

Image

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Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 7:18 am
by HartgeH27
Watty wrote::D I've got a H27
Tell us more ! What spec ? Piccies ?

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 7:19 am
by HartgeH27
Geoff wrote:I miss it soo much!!!

Image

Image
H26 Geoff ? New username !?!? Car now in Eire ?

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 11:01 am
by Geoff
Yeah a change of username. Can hardly call myself Geoff's H26 when i dont own it!!! Its still down in Cork as far as i know, i actually text him the other day to see if he still had it and if so fancied selling it back to me, but thus far no reply! :(


Oh well at the time it was a good move to sell it - CASH IS KING as they say.

If there is anyone from TBMW on here, i was wondering if i could get a copy of the images taken??

Its going to be only a matter of time before im back in an E30, and im looking forward to it! Have a good day zoners!

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 2:32 pm
by hamshank
Another hartge to add to the list.Im new to the forum and i own a h26 in sterlin silver. seakin a leather int for it if anyone knows of one for sale

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 2:34 pm
by hamshank
Another hartge to add to the list.Im new to the forum and i own a h26 in sterlin silver. seakin a leather int for it if anyone knows of one for sale

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 10:56 am
by HartgeH27
Welcome to the Zone m8 !!! Piccies ?????????

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 9:45 pm
by Watty
http://photobucket.com/albums/a252/Watty1/

i hope this works
a few piccies of the H27

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 11:32 pm
by Sim9
Better add another one.

Mine is an E30 M3-260

Uk car, F reg in silver. :cool: