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have i lost it

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 7:00 am
by gaszman
i was thinking maybe i could sell my sport and then get 2 cars another 1 for me say an is and a cheep cab for my daughter so when she passes her test she wont be driving a saxo or some other peice of shit and she does wont a e30
am i being relistic or am i dreaming

help needed

Re: have i lost it

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 7:08 am
by 325CAB
Nice thought, but i think your dreaming. A cab of any variety for a first car! Nice but the insurance is gonna be astronominal! :)

Re: have i lost it

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 7:16 am
by magpie
nowt wrong with a good 318is 8)

but x2 e30's = twice as much work.

+1 on the cab insurance thing.your daughters not ready to drive yet though Dave is she?

Re: have i lost it

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 7:21 am
by gaszman
no get 1 now and work on it so when she does its there for her a 318i should be ok or a 318 2 door but finding 1 cheep now as fookin hard even with no tax or mot they wont shed loads for a 20y old car

Re: have i lost it

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 7:42 am
by bootyman
gaszman wrote:no get 1 now and work on it so when she does its there for her a 318i should be ok or a 318 2 door but finding 1 cheep now as fookin hard even with no tax or mot they wont shed loads for a 20y old car
It's the summer thing! Give it another 2 to 3 months when the wether gets a bit nastier and they will come down in price. In the meantime might be worth making a few calls to Insurance Companies (I'd start with Sky Insurance on here as they trounced my previous quotes) so you at least know if it's realistic or not :wink:

Re: have i lost it

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 9:32 am
by beemerbird
Sky Insurance will be no good for your daughter. They want two years of driving experience.

Re: have i lost it

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:08 am
by Dave_M3
Good idea but no need to sell the Sport.
I can't see one decent Sport making enough to get a mint iS that you'll be happy with. Could also be hard going from 6pot to 4...... (even if the iS is really better) and a good E30 that won't leave your daughter down.


I say hold back on the pocket money and just get her a nice cab and keep your own. If she makes a fuss, just show her a picture of a nice cab and a piece of shit saxo/punto/any other scrap first car :D

Re: have i lost it

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:14 am
by daimlerman
I would guess that any first car will be tough on insurance,be interesting to see how a cabbie stacks against the more usual choices.
I have only one restriction on my insurance,between 10pm and 6 am,when the cabbie is at home it MUST be in the garage to retain the malicious damage clause!

Re: have i lost it

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 11:32 am
by ImysE30
Insurance for the cabby will cost almost as much as the cabby itself :eek:

Re: have i lost it

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 11:52 am
by ivqii
Dave_M3 wrote:Good idea but no need to sell the Sport.
I can't see one decent Sport making enough to get a mint iS that you'll be happy with. Could also be hard going from 6pot to 4...... (even if the iS is really better) and a good E30 that won't leave your daughter down.


I say hold back on the pocket money and just get her a nice cab and keep your own. If she makes a fuss, just show her a picture of a nice cab and a piece of shit saxo/punto/any other scrap first car :D
lol Dave - love the small print 8)

Re: have i lost it

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 12:09 pm
by octanejunkie
You're mad if you think she'll get insurance on a cab as her first car.
Everybody has to have a dog turd for their first car. Its the law.
Picture the situation:

You get a cab for her, spend months getting it straight, give it to beaming and very grateful daughter after passing her test.
Then you bend over and lube up to pay the insurance.
3 weeks later she wraps it up on wet roundabout, or pulls out in front of someone, or dings it in a car park, or scrapes it down a wall.

Without wanting to sound harsh, these are all very realistic situations that all too many new drivers find themselves in.
Its sad, but it may have to be French for a while...... :cry:

By all means buy her a cab, just wait until shes got a bit of experience under her belt. It'll be far less painful for both of you i'm sure. :wink:

Re: have i lost it

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 12:31 pm
by oldroydsr4
Sorry mate but your mad.

How many new drivers end up rolling their first car? A cab is not a good option.

Get her the newest VW polo you can afford. Safety is the key at 17 not style.

Re: have i lost it

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 1:00 pm
by snakebrain
oldroydsr4 wrote:How many new drivers end up rolling their first car? A cab is not a good option.
Er, hardly any! Agreed that a Polo's a good option though. :D

Re: have i lost it

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 1:06 pm
by BMJG
Go old polo retro cool and street cred

Re: have i lost it

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 1:12 pm
by Rav335uk
Gaz, wtf have you been drinking????
Selling the BMW Press car is a big no no, keep it as it will eventually go up in price with that tag on it.
Get a convertible too, plenty of them will have a price drop when winter shows up :cool:

Re: have i lost it

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 2:05 pm
by oldroydsr4
snakebrain wrote:
oldroydsr4 wrote:How many new drivers end up rolling their first car? A cab is not a good option.
Er, hardly any! Agreed that a Polo's a good option though. :D
I don't know the statistics,but I'm sure it's enough to not put your newly qualified 17 yr old daughter in a rwd convertable built in the 80s.

Re: have i lost it

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 2:21 pm
by Dezzy
oldroydsr4 wrote:
snakebrain wrote:
oldroydsr4 wrote:How many new drivers end up rolling their first car? A cab is not a good option.
Er, hardly any! Agreed that a Polo's a good option though. :D
I don't know the statistics,but I'm sure it's enough to not put your newly qualified 17 yr old daughter in a rwd convertable built in the 80s.
Exactly what I was thinking. Surely you want something small and SAFE not rwd and with no roof.
I won't let my wife drive rear wheel drive. Slow in fast out isn't something women on the hole seem to be able to grasp.

Re: have i lost it

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 2:36 pm
by ivqii
Dezzy wrote:
oldroydsr4 wrote:
snakebrain wrote: Er, hardly any! Agreed that a Polo's a good option though. :D
I don't know the statistics,but I'm sure it's enough to not put your newly qualified 17 yr old daughter in a rwd convertable built in the 80s.
women on the hole .
??? I always thought it was vice versa 8)

Re: have i lost it

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 2:44 pm
by beemerbird
Dezzy wrote:Slow in fast out isn't something women on the hole seem to be able to grasp.
Increasingly I wonder if we're in the 1950s when I read your posts :mad:

Re: have i lost it

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 2:44 pm
by snakebrain
Weren't a lot, perhaps even the majority, of E30 convertibles owned and driven by ladies back in the day? ;)

Re: have i lost it

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 2:53 pm
by beemerbird
snakebrain wrote:Weren't a lot, perhaps even the majority, of E30 convertibles owned and driven by ladies back in the day? ;)
Quite possibly, but no doubt they drove them dreadfully and got their fast / slow stuff terribly mixed up winkeye

Re: have i lost it

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 2:57 pm
by daimlerman
My wife seems to enjoy the slow in,fast out stuff...... winkeye

Re: have i lost it

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 2:58 pm
by snakebrain
beemerbird wrote:
snakebrain wrote:Weren't a lot, perhaps even the majority, of E30 convertibles owned and driven by ladies back in the day? ;)
Quite possibly, but no doubt they drove them dreadfully and got their fast / slow stuff terribly mixed up winkeye
Whose side are you on here? winkeye winkeye

But yeah, I don't recall passing an E30 convertible upside down in a ditch with the wheels spinning in the air too often back in the day...

Re: have i lost it

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 3:34 pm
by Dezzy
It goes for alot of my mates too to be honest. Most people are too used to driving euro sh1t boxes where mid corner foot down antics only result in understeer. This seems to be normal driving for alot of people I have been in cars with (my wife included) and has resulted in me writing off more than 1 rwd car in my youth. :o:

Before you get your pantys in a bunch I did say MOST women. I am sure that tastefully mod'd chromie of yours in controlled with pro like skill. :wink:

Re: have i lost it

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 3:54 pm
by beemerbird
Dezzy wrote: I am sure that tastefully mod'd chromie of yours in controlled with pro like skill. :wink:
Well, whilst this WAS the case, sadly Mr Beemerbird took it for what only can be described as a 'terminal' drive the day before I got my Touring.

Two engine mounts sheared off . . . Resulting in the engine dropping onto the subframe and partially shearing that, too . .

There's gonna be a frag fest :cry: :cry:

Re: have i lost it

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 4:05 pm
by SimonBlythe
1.3 Mk2 Golf 4 door......job done. :D

Re: have i lost it

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 4:36 pm
by gooner1
daimlerman wrote:My wife seems to enjoy the slow in,fast out stuff...... winkeye
Nice to see you can laugh off your Premature Ejaculation
problem, Malc. winkeye

Re: have i lost it

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 4:43 pm
by ImysE30
E30 cabby's are really cool looking with the other sex winkeye

Get plenty of looks and extra's :twisted:

Re: have i lost it

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 5:21 pm
by oldroydsr4
Sorry to dissapoint you mate but I'm pretty sure 80% of women will think that an e30 is an old shitter.

Re: have i lost it

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 6:28 pm
by nickso
oldroydsr4 wrote:Sorry to dissapoint you mate but I'm pretty sure 80% of women will think that an e30 is an old shitter.
not shiny enough and doesn't look like the driver has any money.

Re: have i lost it

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 7:32 pm
by gooner1
nickso wrote:
oldroydsr4 wrote:Sorry to dissapoint you mate but I'm pretty sure 80% of women will think that an e30 is an old shitter.
not shiny enough and doesn't look like the driver has any money.
Good, that means the remaining %20 are of the
non shallow variety.

Re: have i lost it

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 7:33 pm
by oldroydsr4
Nail on the head.

Re: have i lost it

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 12:20 pm
by ImysE30
Younger generation still like 'em :D

Re: have i lost it

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 12:34 pm
by hazd31
Insurance wont be too bad, at 18 i insured a 320 cab, so for a girl its gonna only cost around a grand, and lets be serious here how ofted so our e30s step out while driving hard? so how is a 17yr old girl gonna get a sniff of oversteer?

I would rather have a shunt in my e30 than a saxo, but i have to agree polo or even 1.4 golf would be the sensible option!

Re: have i lost it

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 5:35 pm
by oldroydsr4
ImysE30 wrote:Younger generation still like 'em :D
Maybe in derby.