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rear wheel camber

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:46 pm
by davidcorden02
hi all i wounder if you can help me is there any camber adjustments i can do to give me more camber on the rear wheels????? cheers dave

Re: rear wheel camber

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:56 pm
by ross_jsy
You need to buy camber tabs, have them welded to the rear beam then use off set bolts. DanThe sells the tabs.

Any reason you are doing it or just for the euro look? My advice is if its that, save it for a golf. Your car will handle terribly.

Re: rear wheel camber

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 6:16 pm
by mrLEE30
M3 bushings i UNDERSTAND allow for rear camber adjustment, straight swop with no welding

Re: rear wheel camber

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 7:34 pm
by davidcorden02
cheers

Re: rear wheel camber

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:21 pm
by Simon13
mrLEE30 wrote:M3 bushings i UNDERSTAND allow for rear camber adjustment, straight swop with no welding
did mickey mouse tell you that straight up? :roll:

Re: rear wheel camber

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:32 pm
by B7
Simon13 wrote:
mrLEE30 wrote:M3 bushings i UNDERSTAND allow for rear camber adjustment, straight swop with no welding
did mickey mouse tell you that straight up? :roll:
:teehee:

Re: rear wheel camber

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 9:56 pm
by Bob_S
B7 wrote:
Simon13 wrote:
mrLEE30 wrote:M3 bushings i UNDERSTAND allow for rear camber adjustment, straight swop with no welding
did mickey mouse tell you that straight up? :roll:
:teehee:
as much as you mock and laugh BMW will sell eccentric trailing arm bushes which, fitted correctly, will give you more negative camber.
Proof? it's in the pudding I was running half a degree neg camber on a 40mm drop this way :)

Re: rear wheel camber

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 4:07 am
by HairyScreech
there are eccentric bushings from something or other that fit the e30 and do the job. i think there actual intention is to correct bumped cars rather than fuck with the static camber though.

why are you trying to get more?

these things camber up like a pig anyway, most of us are trying to reduce it.

your not going for a stupid "stance" look are you? if so increasing the camber from what you have will probably do us a favour and see the car in a scrap yard with cat b on the window before long.

Re: rear wheel camber

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:21 am
by davidcorden02
no i wanted to do it because im running chopped springs on my tech2 and i just been to fetch some borbets 9j's 16" with 215/40/16 on and they wouldnt fit ................................

Re: rear wheel camber

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:38 am
by mrLEE30
Well Si, is bob wrong too? :roll:

Re: rear wheel camber

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:53 am
by Bob_S
davidcorden02 wrote:no i wanted to do it because im running chopped springs on my tech2 and i just been to fetch some borbets 9j's 16" with 215/40/16 on and they wouldnt fit ................................
Springs are only about a ton, what the hell are you doing with an angle grinder? You fucking cheap skate.
If we need an example of council activity this is it!

Re: rear wheel camber

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:31 am
by DanThe
There is a thread very similar to this in tech help :roll:

Re: rear wheel camber

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:52 am
by Morat
Better to roll the arches than (further) increase the camber, surely?

Re: rear wheel camber

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 11:02 am
by jaistanley
I have adjustable tabs on my rear beam and have over-compensated for negative camber due to lowering. Thus I have 0.5 degree's of negative camber on the rear now (with what looks like a 30-40mm drop on H&R springs for a 325i). How did you find the way the car drives bob?

Mine is absolutely awesome in the dry, very stable and predictable with perfectly even tyre wear. In the wet it's a bit over-steery. I need to play with spring and ARB rates as I feel the rear end is squatting too much and rolling too much, but if I increase roll bars and springs it'll tend tooward more oversteer. Thus I need a set of adjustable arb's and coilovers.. (see how my brain justifies the cost??)

Jai

Re: rear wheel camber

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 3:28 pm
by Bob_S
jaistanley wrote:I have adjustable tabs on my rear beam and have over-compensated for negative camber due to lowering. Thus I have 0.5 degree's of negative camber on the rear now (with what looks like a 30-40mm drop on H&R springs for a 325i). How did you find the way the car drives bob?

Mine is absolutely awesome in the dry, very stable and predictable with perfectly even tyre wear. In the wet it's a bit over-steery. I need to play with spring and ARB rates as I feel the rear end is squatting too much and rolling too much, but if I increase roll bars and springs it'll tend tooward more oversteer. Thus I need a set of adjustable arb's and coilovers.. (see how my brain justifies the cost??)

Jai
I was running -3deg on the front and found that turn in was ever so precise and in the dry getting it to go anywhere on 225/40/16 t1r's meant you were trying damn hard.

I had H&R arbs on mine and had the back set as soft as possible which with H&R springs and e36 rear shocks meant it stuck like glue on a dry road.. however, given a wet road it was a constant game of catch the oversteer and generally was a bloody nightmare. As always I had an open diff on the back and a m52b30 up front.
Get an uprated front bar and I reckon it should be neigh on right with an lsd.

p.s my brakes didnt work either. Danthe has the car now and is on H&R coil overs I've not driven it in this incarnation.

Re: rear wheel camber

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 5:23 pm
by Simon13
they're to reduce neg camber not increase. E30's have too much as standard at standard ride height

Re: rear wheel camber

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 5:35 pm
by DanThe
Ive found its better with the coilovers and no rear ARB, LSD helps a lot also, oh, and brakes :)

Re: rear wheel camber

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 6:08 pm
by davidcorden02
well coilovers dont go low enought point one.
point two 30mm to 60mm lowering springs are a no no( for p**sys)
and point three i drive my car not you who disagree to chopped springs.
i like it low and slow thats how i roll.
every one has there own opition and like different mods i only asked one simple question not your verdict on chopped springs :D

Re: rear wheel camber

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 6:33 pm
by DanThe
I think you need something like this.....

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Re: rear wheel camber

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:01 pm
by davidcorden02
yh thats the kiddy how'd yo do that then mate ????

Re: rear wheel camber

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:18 pm
by pacerpete
Check out Daves 'half sleeve' !

http://www.charlesandhudson.com/archive ... tattoo.jpg

Haterz ! :D

Re: rear wheel camber

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:21 pm
by sweep
AKA Deathtrap.

Re: rear wheel camber

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:23 pm
by bss325i
davidcorden02 wrote:point two 30mm to 60mm lowering springs are a no no( for p**sys)
So im a pussy because i have 35mm springs on my car?

No i just like it to handle well and pass and MOT.

Re: rear wheel camber

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:30 pm
by davidcorden02
nice one pacerpete

Re: rear wheel camber

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:46 pm
by Rav335uk
DanThe wrote:I think you need something like this.....

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That's a Golf Mk 1 isn't it?

Re: rear wheel camber

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:24 pm
by MattTheHat325
can we see some pics of the car mate? sounds like you've got a serious drop! is it one of those cars that looks like a dog having a poo? i'd rather mine be lower at the front thats all, lets have a look fella!

Re: rear wheel camber

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:33 pm
by HairyScreech
i guess my comments about "stance" and ending up in a ditch will soon be vindicated then. :roll:

Re: rear wheel camber

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:36 pm
by DanThe
Having a shite or not, it will be a dog :(

Re: rear wheel camber

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:29 pm
by suchy
Weren't we all young and stupid once?? Age comes with wisdom, I used to drive cars with hideous handling characteristics just because I like the look! Obviously now I'm older and wiser and find the whole stance scene ridiculous, but I can remember being a twat also so give the guy a break and stop flaming him for his opinion and choice. Yes if he drives like a twat and crashes because of his stupidity and twatish councilness, then we can flame him to hell for it- take the piss now by all means but don't hate on it visciously!! :D

Re: rear wheel camber

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:46 pm
by bss325i
suchy wrote:Weren't we all young and stupid once?? Age comes with wisdom, I used to drive cars with hideous handling characteristics just because I like the look! Obviously now I'm older and wiser and find the whole stance scene ridiculous, but I can remember being a **** also so give the guy a break and stop flaming him for his opinion and choice. Yes if he drives like a **** and crashes because of his stupidity and twatish councilness, then we can flame him to hell for it- take the pee pee now by all means but don't hate on it visciously!! :D
He's getting flamed because he said people with 30-60mm drops are pussys.

Thats provocation in my book.

Re: rear wheel camber

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:48 pm
by sweep
40mm max on a e30.the golden ruel.sorry lowriders.

Re: rear wheel camber

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:01 pm
by suchy
bss325i wrote:
suchy wrote:Weren't we all young and stupid once?? Age comes with wisdom, I used to drive cars with hideous handling characteristics just because I like the look! Obviously now I'm older and wiser and find the whole stance scene ridiculous, but I can remember being a **** also so give the guy a break and stop flaming him for his opinion and choice. Yes if he drives like a **** and crashes because of his stupidity and twatish councilness, then we can flame him to hell for it- take the pee pee now by all means but don't hate on it visciously!! :D
He's getting flamed because he said people with 30-60mm drops are pussys.

Thats provocation in my book.
Ahh that changes things completely...
What a f**king tosser!! Scene and Stance poofs are insecure attention seekers who have to shout 'look at me, I'm different' when they all look stupidly the same with their crap handling cars!!
I can admit the errors of my youth now with the benefit of wisdom and experience, but to call us pussies is just asking for a flaming.... :D

Re: rear wheel camber

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:03 pm
by DanThe
suchy wrote:Weren't we all young and stupid once??
No :)

Peace out breadbins :rasta:

Re: rear wheel camber

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:06 pm
by suchy
Check out the councilness....
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Re: rear wheel camber

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:09 pm
by Jhonno
sweep wrote:40mm max on a e30.the golden ruel.sorry lowriders.
You can go lower than that if you do it properly..