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Chip fitting guide ::: micro torx screws

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 2:38 pm
by bpowell555
Bent back the clips but the top cover aint goin nowhere while the yellow painted mini torx have it screwed to the plug :x

Is my ECU unusual or something? Any idea what size that is, its tiny....

Still, the K&N filter went in ok :mad:

Re: Chip fitting guide neglects to mention micro torx screws

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 2:52 pm
by Rav335uk
Never heard that one before, all the ones i've done, bend the tabs back lift off and fit the chip.
What yrs the car??

Re: Chip fitting guide neglects to mention micro torx screws

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 3:34 pm
by bpowell555
1990 touring
:D

Re: Chip fitting guide neglects to mention micro torx screws

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 4:33 pm
by chrisE318is
my i.s had them dunno what size they were though, thought all ecu's had them

Re: Chip fitting guide neglects to mention micro torx screws

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 4:55 pm
by bpowell555
Well, its a torx 6... and the chip aint on its own thing its soldered to the board with all the other chips --- any ideas? I could have tried to unsolder the chip but ideally I'd have access to the back of the board, and its all clipped in solid.

:(

Re: Chip fitting guide neglects to mention micro torx screws

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 4:57 pm
by bpowell555
I'll post a pic later but right now I need to plug it in again and do some stuff....

Re: Chip fitting guide neglects to mention micro torx screws

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 5:25 pm
by hongkongfuey
what car is it to start with? the chip you have will be a plug in one , no need to undo any screws or soldering

Re: Chip fitting guide neglects to mention micro torx screws

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 5:52 pm
by JWaller360
Mine has tiny little torx screws as well! 1991 i.S

Re: Chip fitting guide neglects to mention micro torx screws

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 5:54 pm
by Alyman
The I don't think the wiki guide mentions that there is usually a black plastic cover over the chip that needs to be removed before you can see the chip itself - maybe that's throwing you off?

Re: Chip fitting guide neglects to mention micro torx screws

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 8:37 pm
by hongkongfuey
all have screws on the back of the ecu, they hold the board inside. The only ones not straight forward are the 320's as they are duel layer

Re: Chip fitting guide neglects to mention micro torx screws

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 1:17 am
by bpowell555
Image Image

Chip to replace is top right with the white label (I think....), definitely soldered on!

Cheers!

:cool:

Re: Chip fitting guide neglects to mention micro torx screws

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 1:21 am
by bpowell555
Its not under that metal clip thing at the top is it?? 8O

Re: Chip fitting guide neglects to mention micro torx screws

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 2:24 am
by JWaller360
No, are they injector drivers?

I revise my previous statement, I took mine apart tonight, I just didn't have the balls to pry the cover off the first time! Thought mine is different to the case pictured, it was still just 4 bolts on the top cover :)

Re: Chip fitting guide neglects to mention micro torx screws

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 2:25 am
by romario
Torx T6 screwdriver. These are on my ECU too, a 1990 car also. The chip was not soldered on though.

Re: Chip fitting guide neglects to mention micro torx screws

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 2:34 am
by magpie
that chip is not soldered in it will come out,try some long nose pliers.

Re: Chip fitting guide neglects to mention micro torx screws

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 10:46 am
by bpowell555
I was hoping someone would say it was under the clip.... if I get the chance will take it out again and have another look - was sure it was soldered though :?

Re: Chip fitting guide neglects to mention micro torx screws

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 10:51 am
by daimlerman
Very strange,my ECU came apart just as the wiki guide,plonked Ant's chip in using a credit card to ease the legs in at one side.Well,we learn something new everyday here!

Re: Chip fitting guide neglects to mention micro torx screws

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 12:39 am
by bpowell555
I guess with these 20-30 yr old motahs anything goes :D

... Will whip it out again fnarrr fnarr when I get a chance this week :cool:

Re: Chip fitting guide neglects to mention micro torx screws

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:13 am
by Tyra
I had issues with my ECU aswell, although mine looked different again to your pic, mine was a double board :/

Ended up picking up a second hand ECU here on the zone and chipped that one instead LOL :mad:

Re: Chip fitting guide neglects to mention micro torx screws

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 11:12 pm
by bpowell555
Well its definitely soldered on. Had another go and a better pic on my phone and an electrical engineer mate had a look, recognised the chip as a dual in line http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual_in-line_package

The type most peeps have is probably litterally a socket which BMW probably realised made upgrading the engine tune a bit too easy so pulled the plug on that with a drop of solder.

He suggested I could clip the 28 legs and solder the new chip on top. Or an engineering firm should have a special tool for softening lines of pins solder allowing the chip to be removed.

Pain in the ass, now my under steering cover is loose :x

Ho hum!

:cool:

edit: fook is it really a month since I last had a go? lol

Re: Chip fitting guide neglects to mention micro torx screws

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 11:18 pm
by SPADGE
Thats an ecu i havn't seen before.
Has the car come from overseas?

Re: Chip fitting guide neglects to mention micro torx screws

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 11:23 pm
by bpowell555
Don't think so - Edenbridge pretty much all its life :)

Re: Chip fitting guide neglects to mention micro torx screws

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 11:23 pm
by bpowell555
Replacement ECU maybe?

Re: Chip fitting guide neglects to mention micro torx screws

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 11:33 pm
by SPADGE
Could be a replacement as the stickers on it look different to all the ones i have seen in the past.
It's a 325i right?

Re: Chip fitting guide neglects to mention micro torx screws

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 11:44 pm
by bpowell555
Yeah 325i.... was hpi checked winkeye

Funny google e30 ecu and the first link says this:


http://www.dtmpower.net/forum/e30-3-ser ... -help.html
e30 ecu help
Hey
I bought a performance chip for my 1990 e30 325i Convertible. I pulled my ecu out to install the chip when i had a problem. By the way my ecu is a 525 in pretty sure. My factory chip was soldered in.

Re: Chip fitting guide neglects to mention micro torx screws

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 12:18 am
by bpowell555
Just checked and my chip number is 1267356425 which is a 380
http://www.austec.co.uk/performance-tun ... ngine=2500

Re: Chip fitting guide neglects to mention micro torx screws

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 12:24 am
by bpowell555
aaaah should look like this :x :evil: :cry:
http://www.pelicanparts.com/bmw/techart ... r/pic1.jpg

5% of 318s ECUs here are soldered, maybe the instructions should be updated to reflect this :roll:
http://www.turnermotorsport.com/pages/chip_id_new05.htm

Re: Chip fitting guide neglects to mention micro torx screws

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 12:09 am
by bpowell555
An update, never one to run from a challenge haha, I've bought a solder sucker and am looking to cut the chip pins and solder on a dip socket....
http://parts.digikey.com/1/parts/297140 ... 18-10.html

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