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Respray question.
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:50 pm
by gooner1
Is 5litres about right for a cab respray ?
Tia.
Re: Respray question.
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:35 am
by m_jermyn
If its 5 litres strait out of the tin yes that will be fine as it will be around 10 litres when thinned out... Could do 2 or 3 cabs with that amount of paint......
Dont use cheap paint mate, get it done right and it will last longer and look better..
Mike
Re: Respray question.
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:54 am
by psychochild187
i was told 3 liters yesterday , before thining
about 100 ish quid before vat (mind you mine had a bit or pearl to it which ads cost )
Re: Respray question.
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 2:09 am
by daimlerman
Most of the cost of a re-spray is labour,so do not be mean about the paint...spoil the ship for a half-penny of tar?
Re: Respray question.
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 7:36 am
by gooner1
Thanks lads, but price apart, how the hell can i tell if it,s good paint or not.

Re: Respray question.
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 8:44 am
by E30Mark
If you can't tell, employ the services of someone who does know.
Don't believe everything you read on the web!
Re: Respray question.
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:41 am
by whipsey
where are you looking for the paint rob?
try MKPE
Re: Respray question.
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:53 am
by toecutter666
Are you spraying this yourself or just buying the paint for someone else to do it?
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:56 am
by mrLEE30
Glasurite clear coat and you cannot go wrong. for the colour i went to a toyota dealer - they made my diamond black up from the 181 code, then the clearcoat was Glasurite scratch resistant clear coat - car lives in dutsy environment but is still gleaming four years later.
I bought 5 litres for my cab and i have enough to do it again. 3 should see you through easy and 1 litre of clear - keep the left over for chip touch ups.
Hmmm shiney!!
and the type of environment!!!

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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 11:07 am
by m_jermyn
Brand is how you tell if its good or not, any well known paint company will do Glasurite, PPG, Debeers, Spys hecker are the only ones I would go near.
With paint you get what you pay for, however the paint is only as good as the numb nut applying it.
Mike
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:58 pm
by psychochild187
mrLEE30 wrote:and the type of environment!!!

LOL

thats how i like them . nice and dirty
Re: Respray question.
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 2:22 pm
by gooner1
E30Mark wrote:If you can't tell, employ the services of someone who does know.
Don't believe everything you read on the web!
I.m supplying the paint etc for the person that is actually doing the job Mark, and the reason i asked is precisely because i don,t
believe everything i read on the web.
Shaun, have,nt looked anywhere yet mate, but now i,m armed
with a bit of info i will.
Thanks all btw, don,t go to far , i,ll probably have a raft of questions to follow as i aim to do as much prep work myself
as possible.
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 2:47 pm
by mrLEE30
i prepped and sprayed the black E39 you see in the back ground, did all the work myself for the first time, and i borrowed the spray booth from the company that sprayed my cab, it was bloody hard work and the prep work was by far the hardest followed by the flattenting - but as these are the most time consuming jobs this is where companies charge you loads to do.
I biasically watched them prep spray and flatten my cab, then had a go on the E39.. it was not too hard just you need to really take your time first time around - if you can afford get help with flattening/polishing as this is realy the key to a good job, but the pre prep work you really cannot screw much up!!
The E39 i did looks quite good and only a few fisheyes!!!
any advice you need let me know!!
my first spray job!!...and yes i did say spray
flattening
all done!!

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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 2:52 pm
by M3BOB
i painted my m3 last year used 4 litres, paid £325 for paint (ICI) the finish was loverly, didnt even have to mop it and havnt yet, after painting it previously with cheap paint, it wouldnt use cheap again, its flows nicer through the gun as well when you pay more, and old friend of mine who was a good painted quoted this to me once "PREPARATION IS THE ART OF DECORATION" and he is right
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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 3:15 pm
by gooner1
Nice work Mr lee. Impressed. Hoping to have mine done in the later half of september
while i,m away for two weeks. One of my problems is that i don,t have access to a garage.
With that in mind, would i be ok to start rubbing down the paintwork now, or would i be better off leaving it until a couple of weeks before the spray

I ask because the paint, polish etc
is a protectant for the metal. Don,t mind hard work at all, but how far down do i need to rub down, not to bare metal, do i
As for not being able to feck up too much in the prep work, i have a touch like an elephant.
M3BOB, another quote for you, Whoever invented decorating, wants fecking, and
whoever invented fecking wants decorating.

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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 3:39 pm
by psychochild187
nice one Mr lee
looks good
i want to do the prep work myself too the thing is ,. I havent got a clue . .
anyone in brighton area i can watch/help on a car to learn what to do when i come to it.
does the price differ alot depending on the paint code .as i choose A32 which is bmw sepang bronze
is 100 ish for 3 litres without laquer sound like cheap paint ?
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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 5:46 pm
by M3BOB
M3BOB wrote:i painted my m3 last year used 4 litres, paid £325 for paint (ICI) the finish was loverly, didnt even have to mop it and havnt yet, after painting it previously with cheap paint, it wouldnt use cheap again, its flows nicer through the gun as well when you pay more, and old friend of mine who was a good painter quoted this to me once "PREPARATION IS THE ART OF DECORATION" and he is right
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 5:46 pm
by Dan320is
I'd definately recommend Glasurite.
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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:04 pm
by initial_g
ive been spraying for 9 years now and will only use standox i used standox standofleet paint on my e30 (2 pack) purly because its a track car and the standofleet is so so strong i mine looks nice and glossy, even using cheapo thinners and activators can make or break a finnish
a good job should still look good after a year without polishing every weekend, ive found ici paint very brittle (chips easy) lesonal make very good paint (good value for money and doesnt chip very easy)
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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:09 pm
by whipsey
i agree with initial_g and its supplied by mkpe rob

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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:15 pm
by gooner1
just had this from mkpe shaun,
We can supply this colour in a number of versions.
Please specify:-
Direct Gloss ? Basecoat?
Solvent ? Waterbase?.
Preferred Manufacturer?
Really need to speak to yer man, it,s all starting to make my brain bleed, which is,nt difficult.

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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:23 pm
by initial_g
just had this from mkpe shaun,
We can supply this colour in a number of versions.
Please specify:-
Direct Gloss - flat colour no laqure, if you have a red car in direct gloss when you polish it the cloth will go red undernieth- easyly touched up if chipped or scratched ass it can be touched up then flatted and polished
Basecoat- colour also metalics that have laqure ontop
Solvent based- ideal for painting at home as solvents evaporate out
Waterbase- uses air blowers to dry it for spraybooth use only really
Preferred Manufacturer - standox- lesonel
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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:25 pm
by initial_g
if you are going a non metalic colour go for direct gloss if your doing it at home
if ur going metalic use solvent based
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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:42 pm
by gooner1
initial_g, thanks for that. My cab is Zinnober red, non metalic with a badly peeling
lacquer atm. Think i,ll opt for the Standox.
Appreciate your help.
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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:50 pm
by initial_g
yeh go for direct gloss m8 as when it fades in the sun just have it machine polished and itl look like new again,
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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:58 pm
by whipsey
failing that i have 25 litres of orange paint sat here

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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 11:06 pm
by initial_g
yeh man orange e30's look sik
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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 11:07 pm
by whipsey
also got some bright red a blue tin and some greys etc
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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 11:15 pm
by gooner1
whipsey wrote:also got some bright red a blue tin and some greys etc
Does your living room glow in the dark, ala Delboy,s perchance?

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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 11:16 pm
by whipsey
nope all stored over my workshop rob

as well as four more cars five engines countless wheels etc etc
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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 11:18 pm
by SPADGE
Rob
Just buy a 1 litre can of Hammerite and a soft roller and do it yourself you lazy git

Re:
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 11:19 pm
by whipsey
if you thin the hammerite down it sprays nicely
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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 11:22 pm
by SPADGE
whipsey wrote:if you thin the hammerite down it sprays nicely
Spraying requires a lot of masking mate!
Use a roller and a small brush for 'cutting-in'

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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 11:22 pm
by whipsey
trye true
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Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 8:09 am
by gooner1
Was asked to supply this for the sprayer
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... K:MEWAX:IT
but have just been informed my the seller that it is NLA.
Anyone reccomend a good alternative?