E30 Zone

as above thinkin bout looking out for one of these so i have not one for sale or offered one. I am only wanting to know what money i would have to pay would like a red one

eh?

No such thing...

Must mean a 325 Sport

or an e36 maybe?

Or a M52 2.8 325i sport.

i mean a e30 sport with a e36 2.8 engine

Anything from about £1k for an unfinished scruffy project needing bodywork upto £5-6K for minty example with morsels.

I don't know of any genuine sports which have had this conversion and it's generally regarded as poor form to molest a sport (probably worth less than a standard sport once converted).

24V cars with MOT and in presentable condition are gonna start at £2K+

u see i have a sport its black and would love to do this to my car but have been offered a red sport needing a engine so was thinking of doing it but if i could buy one at right money i would not do the bother of it

Why not do it to a sport....Gotta go better than the boat anchor BMW fitted it with from the factory!

I'm of the same mind with Beemerlad, I would be slow to put an M50/M52 or S50 into a good Sport.

Would much prefer to put the M52 crank into the M20 to build a decent M20b28 like March109s Sport.

If that red sport needing an engine is going reasonably cheap and is in good condtion rust wise, I'd go for that as once you gather all the bits up for the M52 it should only take a weekend or two to have it in and running

rado-steve wrote:Why not do it to a sport....Gotta go better than the boat anchor BMW fitted it with from the factory!

Because an 'original' sport is worth something these days..

wilson325i has an M52/b28 in his sport (if its a sport)

2.8 24v ftw.

leeparkes wrote:wilson325i has an M52/b28 in his sport (if its a sport)

It is.

Jhonno wrote:

rado-steve wrote:Why not do it to a sport....Gotta go better than the boat anchor BMW fitted it with from the factory!

Because an 'original' sport is worth something these days..

It's just a 325i with a bodykit TBF...it's not some reverand special edition like an alpina etc

Jhonno wrote:

rado-steve wrote:Why not do it to a sport....Gotta go better than the boat anchor BMW fitted it with from the factory!

Because an 'original' sport is worth something these days..

Hangs head in shame...

rado-steve wrote:

Jhonno wrote:

rado-steve wrote:Why not do it to a sport....Gotta go better than the boat anchor BMW fitted it with from the factory!

Because an 'original' sport is worth something these days..

It's just a 325i with a bodykit TBF...it's not some reverand special edition like an alpina etc

Ohhhh, could be i might need to nip out and get some fresh popcorn, and curl up in me cumfy chair

Yeah, just a fancy 325 with alot of factory extras.

Great marketing trick to invent the Sport so that people are still thinking its so special 20 years on

Sport owners don't like sports being molested - well fair enough. But if it needs a new engine anyway, go with the M52. If the world suddenly goes mad and sports become worth as much as vintage Bugatis then you can always swap an M20 back in later on.

rado-steve wrote:

Jhonno wrote:

rado-steve wrote:Why not do it to a sport....Gotta go better than the boat anchor BMW fitted it with from the factory!

Because an 'original' sport is worth something these days..

It's just a 325i with a bodykit TBF...it's not some reverand special edition like an alpina etc

*Yawn*

m52 going in my sport when ive got the cash. the cars mint and has everything so its worth making it better, with my old 320i theres no point in doing it, it would be a nice engine but the rest would let it down unless i spent even more on the extras (and paintjob) like i dont see a problem with an e30 m3 with an s50 lump, its the perfect car, but i have only ever seen one for sale and it sold for 7k with new paintjob, custom leathers, brembos, the lot, very tastefull job but sold for half what they normally go for

I think the M3 is a bit different because a healthy S14 is worth quite a bit of money on its own... with a sport having the same engine as every other 325 I don't see it as an issue.

rado-steve wrote:

Jhonno wrote:

rado-steve wrote:Why not do it to a sport....Gotta go better than the boat anchor BMW fitted it with from the factory!

Because an 'original' sport is worth something these days..

It's just a 325i with a bodykit TBF...it's not some reverand special edition like an alpina etc

You are clearly new to E30's.

FACT! The 325i Sports that are worth the most are the unmolested ones!

Bit like corrado's and the "Storm" version! Nowt special, just a corrado with a couple of badges and some different Alloy wheels and Leather! People still pay £2K over what it would be for a good VR6 with leather etc......

I like the look of the sport, but if they'd put a decent engine in it for it to be properly classed as a sport or some other tweeks etc then I may think different, Sorry I'm not being a sheep and following everyone...I thought thats what make a good online community????

I love the look of E30's but I just can't see why the BM community seems to be quite stuck in its ways with regards to modding etc..... A BMW with a set of bently rims fitted or some lambo wheels etc, Euro look etc..Ok well I've seen 2 on here and they rock!

Now I'm not slating anyone who likes std cars, as I'm a sucker for a mint original MK1 golf GTi etc but being different and having different views is what I love about the whole secene!

rado-steve wrote:
I like the look of the sport, but if they'd put a decent engine in it for it to be properly classed as a sport or some other tweeks etc then I may think different

Its a shame the engine wasnt tweaked, they did come with a LSD and slightly different gear ratios though, but even that wouldnt make me part with the premium.

rado-steve wrote:I love the look of E30's but I just can't see why the BM community seems to be quite stuck in its ways with regards to modding etc..... A BMW with a set of bently rims fitted or some lambo wheels etc, Euro look etc..Ok well I've seen 2 on here and they rock!

Most E30 owners have the car because of the way it drives, if you slam it on the ground with ridiculous sized wheels poking out the arches its not going to drive well at all, which would be pointless from a drivers point of view, no matter how good you think it looks

the m52b28 in an e30?? sounds good to me! just make sure shes had a few mods before you drop the donk in... m50 inlet, 3.0 m3 cams, bbtb... and remap it... mmmmmmmmmmm...

rado-steve wrote:Bit like corrado's and the "Storm" version! Nowt special, just a corrado with a couple of badges and some different Alloy wheels and Leather! People still pay £2K over what it would be for a good VR6 with leather etc......

I like the look of the sport, but if they'd put a decent engine in it for it to be properly classed as a sport or some other tweeks etc then I may think different, Sorry I'm not being a sheep and following everyone...I thought thats what make a good online community????

I love the look of E30's but I just can't see why the BM community seems to be quite stuck in its ways with regards to modding etc..... A BMW with a set of bently rims fitted or some lambo wheels etc, Euro look etc..Ok well I've seen 2 on here and they rock!

Now I'm not slating anyone who likes std cars, as I'm a sucker for a mint original MK1 golf GTi etc but being different and having different views is what I love about the whole secene!

Keep the Bently rims and slamed stances for the Dub scene, it doesnt work as well on E30's just becasue they are from the same country and generation as mk1 and 2 golfs doesn't mean the same things will work.

Not everyone keeps their E30 styling standard, far from it, its just they do things differently generally subtle styling using various combinations of OEM parts, a look that seems to have been called "OEM+".

As Dan said, slammed E30's with no suspension drive horrible and thats not what E30's are about, they are after all "The ultimate driving machine"

As for 325i Sport values, well its a fact of life that they comand a premium over normanl 2dr 325i's sometimes as much as twice the price. Weather or not or not they are "worth" twice as much in terms of what you get for you extra money is beside the point.

They are worth more money and always will be. It has been disscused on here almost as much as "325i Vs 318iS"! always with the same outcome!

The Sport in nice, unmolested rot free conditon is becoming a rare thing now so engine swaps and any major modifications are only going to harm the value of it.

Keep the major mods for the lesser models, treat that 316i as a blank canvas!

rado-steve wrote:I like the look of the sport, but if they'd put a decent engine in it for it to be properly classed as a sport or some other tweeks etc then I may think different, Sorry I'm not being a sheep and following everyone...I thought thats what make a good online community????

I love the look of E30's but I just can't see why the BM community seems to be quite stuck in its ways with regards to modding etc..... A BMW with a set of bently rims fitted or some lambo wheels etc, Euro look etc..Ok well I've seen 2 on here and they rock!

Other than the suspension/trim/kit/wheels/LSD/box you mean?

I think luckily most of the community has taste, and those that dont, lack the money to create such monstrosities

rado-steve wrote:

Jhonno wrote:

rado-steve wrote:Why not do it to a sport....Gotta go better than the boat anchor BMW fitted it with from the factory!

Because an 'original' sport is worth something these days..

It's just a 325i with a bodykit TBF...it's not some reverand special edition like an alpina etc

true, but then why not fit it to a 325i with the kit etc instead and save yourself the couple of grand extra youd be spending on buying the sport in the first place?im hardly stuck in the ways of the bmw scene but common £££ sense would tell you to mod a 325 and not a sport.

bss325i wrote:FACT! The 325i Sports that are worth the most are the unmolested ones!

What I would call molesting is lots or shitty bodykits and gash styling with spoilers and all that which can't really be put back to standard because of holes and filler everywhere to fit whatever was put on...


Swapping an engine, wheels, suspension etc is fine in my oppinion as everything can be put back to standard if whoever does want to sell it eventually if standard ones are making a killing by keeping the original bits stored away.

Would even be a better car then as it would be basically after a rebuild when being put back to standard

m52b28 ftw.... i agree... dont molest sports!! molest an se insted!!

Dave_M3 wrote:

bss325i wrote:FACT! The 325i Sports that are worth the most are the unmolested ones!

What I would call molesting is lots or shitty bodykits and gash styling with spoilers and all that which can't really be put back to standard because of holes and filler everywhere to fit whatever was put on...


Swapping an engine, wheels, suspension etc is fine in my oppinion as everything can be put back to standard if whoever does want to sell it eventually if standard ones are making a killing by keeping the original bits stored away.

Would even be a better car then as it would be basically after a rebuild when being put back to standard

Suspension and wheels maybe but engine swaps no.

As i said, its a FACT that the more original the sport is the more it is worth!

bss325i wrote:

rado-steve wrote:Bit like corrado's and the "Storm" version! Nowt special, just a corrado with a couple of badges and some different Alloy wheels and Leather! People still pay £2K over what it would be for a good VR6 with leather etc......

I like the look of the sport, but if they'd put a decent engine in it for it to be properly classed as a sport or some other tweeks etc then I may think different, Sorry I'm not being a sheep and following everyone...I thought thats what make a good online community????

I love the look of E30's but I just can't see why the BM community seems to be quite stuck in its ways with regards to modding etc..... A BMW with a set of bently rims fitted or some lambo wheels etc, Euro look etc..Ok well I've seen 2 on here and they rock!

Now I'm not slating anyone who likes std cars, as I'm a sucker for a mint original MK1 golf GTi etc but being different and having different views is what I love about the whole secene!

Keep the Bently rims and slamed stances for the Dub scene, it doesnt work as well on E30's just becasue they are from the same country and generation as mk1 and 2 golfs doesn't mean the same things will work.

Sorry mate, Beg to differ, Why do some of you BM guys have such a blinkered attitude to modding??? I'm not knocking anyones car here don't get me wrong, Your car looks sweet, and I'd love to see some more pics of it, My corrado is very much OEM+ with some subtle tweeks, nice wheels and a cracking engine, Just getting one of the sweetest handling FWD cars ever built better, but just because you think that an E30 is "the Ultimate driving machine" that you shouldn't mess with them is rubbish! E30's rock when they are lowered and have some stance..for example:



Now don't tell me that those don't look good! Awesome cars set off by cracking wheels and great stance! Maybe it's because I've had so much experience of dubs and the whole dub scene that I think the way i do!

Not trying to start arguments, just some decent forum discussion and banter, seeing an E30 from without the Blue Propeller tinted glasses that a few peeps on here seem to view them through!

i dont think theres many here that would say no mods at all but although im one of the biggest knockers of sports, when your paying a couple of grand over and above the price of a 325 you dont want to be devaluing them in and real way by modifying them.
im sure the vw scene also has a section of members who prefer all things standard, its no different here than anywhere else.