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Scuttle Panel

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 7:40 pm
by minicooper172
Does anyone know if you can get replacement scuttle panels?

Took a stab at the scuttle panel the other day and found this!

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This is what filled the gap:

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And this is what I've done to get the rust out...

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Now, this hole is a right pain in the arse due to the complex curves, and the brazed panels mean you can't weld to all of the egdes.

A new scuttle would make this a whole lot easier!

Re: Scuttle Panel

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 8:20 pm
by bdx
Cut it out of another car

Re: Scuttle Panel

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 8:23 pm
by ROC
You can still buy one from BMW.

Re: Scuttle Panel

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 9:05 pm
by cypriot_boy_2k7
bmw do it and stamp ur numbers on, give them a ring ding

scuttle

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 10:34 pm
by e30325iauto
Noticed your in Brighton,

There is a mint e30 at Bridges scrap yard (crawley area) you could butcher.

Re: scuttle

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 10:48 pm
by minicooper172
Good point, I'll check that out... How long has it been there for? Not sure how long their cars last?

Thanks for the replies by the way, I'll give the muppets at BMW a try. Last time they didn't know what an E30 was until I showed them the one I had sitting outside...

Re: scuttle

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 11:06 pm
by skipunda
:eek: well cut out and prepared though

Re: scuttle

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 11:19 pm
by e30325iauto
minicooper172 wrote:Good point, I'll check that out... How long has it been there for? Not sure how long their cars last?

Thanks for the replies by the way, I'll give the muppets at BMW a try. Last time they didn't know what an E30 was until I showed them the one I had sitting outside...


2 weeks its a touring in the yard to the left. green in colour. I've just cut the same section out of a 2door in the bottom yard. Took 45 mins hacksaw and chissel/hammer only tools required.

Re: scuttle

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 11:22 pm
by Sanchez
e30325iauto wrote: 2 weeks its a touring in the yard to the left. green in colour. I've just cut the same section out of a 2door in the bottom yard. Took 45 mins hacksaw and chissel/hammer only tools required.
Is it dark green(malahite). Do you now if the tailgate is nice?

Re: scuttle

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 11:29 pm
by M3BOB
bmw do one with your chassis number stamped in it, dont think you can buy them blank anymore

Re: scuttle

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 11:46 pm
by minicooper172
Half a scuttle will do the job, I only want the bit that's missing...

Have to wait tomorrow until I can find out how much one is going to cost.

Re: scuttle

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:25 pm
by euan
mine cost about £40 from stealer in edinburgh, took around 10 days to get stamped etc

Re: scuttle

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:45 pm
by Barx325i
that's a fair mess..

Re: scuttle

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 12:04 am
by Bob_S
£31 for the last scuttle I saw leave BMW

Re: scuttle

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 12:35 am
by Brianmoooore
The stuff in your hand, in your second pic, is a lump of hardened sealant, and is what caused the problem.
It's applied at the factory to seal the scuttle box from the screen pillars, etc., onto unpainted metal. After 15 - 20 years the sealant hardens and shrinks, pulling away and leaving a very small gap from the underside of the scuttle. Water is drawn into this gap by capillary action, and the metal soon rusts through.
On the plus side, the rust is unlikely to extend more than a few millimetres from the hole, and can usualy be repaired by a carefully shaped and welded plate, although yours seems to have had an unusually large blob of sealant.

Re: scuttle

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 12:37 am
by Bob_S
Brianmoooore wrote:The stuff in your hand, in your second pic, is a lump of hardened sealant, and is what caused the problem.
It's applied at the factory to seal the scuttle box from the screen pillars, etc., onto unpainted metal. After 15 - 20 years the sealant hardens and shrinks, pulling away and leaving a very small gap from the underside of the scuttle. Water is drawn into this gap by capillary action, and the metal soon rusts through.
On the plus side, the rust is unlikely to extend more than a few millimetres from the hole, and can usualy be repaired by a carefully shaped and welded plate, although yours seems to have had an unusually large blob of sealant.
What the OP appears to be holsing is an averagely sized (for an e30) lump of p40, with some aluminium mesh to aid the shaping of said p40

Re: scuttle

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 12:40 am
by Brianmoooore
Bob_S wrote:What the OP appears to be holsing is an averagely sized (for an e30) lump of p40, with some aluminium mesh to aid the shaping of said p40
On closer inspection of the pic; you're right!
If it was the first time the hole appeared though, it would have been sealant!

Re: scuttle

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 8:57 pm
by Bob_S
Brianmoooore wrote:
Bob_S wrote:What the OP appears to be holsing is an averagely sized (for an e30) lump of p40, with some aluminium mesh to aid the shaping of said p40
On closer inspection of the pic; you're right!
If it was the first time the hole appeared though, it would have been sealant!
Your right though. It would have been sealant.