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Opinions on undertaking
Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 7:56 pm
by oakey
....no not as a profession
When on the motorway or large A road and there is someone sitting on the fast lane and there is no reason for them being there (other lanes empty for eg) I will usually undertake them and them give them that disgusted look. lol.
Is that frowned upon by many? Should I just lay back and wait? Should I drive bumper to bumper with my 8000k hid's on full beam?
I know undertaking is not right but so is using an overtaking lane for cruising.
I'm sure most of you guys/gals must get fed up with this too, what's your method for shifting the rude fekers in our bmw lane?
Re: Opinions on undertaking
Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 7:59 pm
by d6dph
If they are under the speed limit then I will undertake but stay in lane 1 for a while so it's not too obvious. If they are doing a reasonable speed I just wait for them to move.
As long as you are not inconveniencing others then it's no biggie imo.
Re: Opinions on undertaking
Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:01 pm
by DanThe
I just drop a cog and blast past them with right foot planted, its usually enough to make them decide to move over
Re: Opinions on undertaking
Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:01 pm
by fuzzy
i usually undertake but make a point in reving hard and lifting off just as im level so they get the noise from the loud dump valve then cut them up as soon as im past so they get the message and pull in.

Re: Opinions on undertaking
Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:05 pm
by oakey
fuzzy wrote:i usually undertake but make a point in reving hard and lifting off just as im level so they get the noise from the loud dump valve then cut them up as soon as im past so they get the message and pull in.

That's the spirit!!
It's best when there is a queue behind you and they all follow in the undertakeringism.
Re: Opinions on undertaking
Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:07 pm
by E30Mark
As Dave said, as long as your not under taking them at 120mph then i don't see a problem with it. If they are too stupid to move over, then leave them hogging the 2nd lane.
Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:08 pm
by DRIFTBOY
I agree with that Dave.
As long as I don't look too obvious doing it, I will pass on the inside, I know it is still a bit naughty but lane hoggers are feckin' annoying!
Weaving in and out of lanes on a busy motorway will probably get you a hefty penalty if caught!
Getting an inch from their bumper is much worse in my opinion and could really freak out a nervous or non-confident driver, so I never do that.
Re: Opinions on undertaking
Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:10 pm
by magpie
i normally shake my head when passing,
it's mainly ditherers in the middle lane sat on 65 mph oblivious to the rules.
the fast lane is what it's called for a reason,but you have to be alert for the prat pulling
out in front of you to overtake the numpty doing 65 mph in the middle lane.
dodge city sometimes
oh the joys of m/way driving

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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:11 pm
by da4x4turbo
I do it when I need to. I don't think it's dangerous in general. Every situation is different, but if I think it's safe then I'll do it rather than wait for some dithering woman to make up her mind about whether to carry on applying her make up or get out of MY lane !!!

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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:12 pm
by gareth
i find dropping a gear and giving it a short blast of full throttle towards them soon makes their mirrors work again. it's not exactly quiet my car

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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:13 pm
by djk
I'm not proud of it, but I do it. I wonder what it is with these people - they're usually in a total daze. I try to make sure I give them a wide berth and ensure that the speed differential is enough that I am not on their blindside for too long. Often they pull in afterwards though, as if your unconventional manoeuvre has awoken them from their slumber, so I guess it can work alright.
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:14 pm
by djk
No such thing as the fast lane, you can go just as fast in all three!
Re: Opinions on undertaking
Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:14 pm
by DanThe
magpie wrote:i normally shake my head when passing
Sounds a bit dangerous!

Re: Opinions on undertaking
Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:15 pm
by Rodderz
Unfortunatly you look as ignorant as they are when you undertake them!
Re: Opinions on undertaking
Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:21 pm
by he30
Troube is with most of these cocks, they completley oblivoius as to what your problem is when you do undertake!?
Re: Opinions on undertaking
Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:24 pm
by hennabm
I normally giv ethem time to pull into the inside lane. If not then I have lng given up on waiting and just blast right under them. This is normally accompanied by me telling them what i think of their standard of driving

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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:28 pm
by fuzzy
djk wrote:No such thing as the fast lane, you can go just as fast in all three!
4 if you include the hard shoulder.
Re: Opinions on undertaking
Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:29 pm
by zaust
Only if it is really safe to do so, Will I undertake. Most of the time anywhere I go the roads are too busy to even think about doing it, regardless of the twat sitting infornt of me.
Re: Opinions on undertaking
Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:32 pm
by fuzzy
he30 wrote:Troube is with most of these cocks, they completley oblivoius as to what your problem is when you do undertake!?
true, theyll start flashing their lights and making gestures not realising theres a half mile queue of traffic built up impatiently behind them.
Re: Opinions on undertaking
Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:35 pm
by Jesus325iTouring
Myself and a random Audi driver drove for the best of a whole HOUR undertaking everyone on the way around the M25 once,for some reason,usual story of sheep following sheep,everyone was in the middle and outside lane,the inside lane was totally clear. There were no road signs to suggest why the the inside lane shouldn't be used,a very bizarre drive. All this at 70mph,no silly speeds.
Re: Opinions on undertaking
Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:36 pm
by oakey
fuzzy wrote:he30 wrote:Troube is with most of these cocks, they completley oblivoius as to what your problem is when you do undertake!?
true, theyll start flashing their lights and making gestures not realising theres a half mile queue of traffic built up impatiently behind them.
I find a swift launch of the e30 glove box torch to their nozzle learns 'em!
Re: Opinions on undertaking
Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:45 pm
by Grrrmachine
A good flash at high beam from behind is usually enough to make their mirrors work. If that fails, pulling up alongside, pulling the leather wallet out, holding it up to the window and thumbing them over is good for a laugh (as long as you've counted the number of aerials on the target vehicle first!)
Re: Opinions on undertaking
Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:45 pm
by eltelturbo
he30 wrote:Troube is with most of these cocks, they completley oblivoius as to what your problem is when you do undertake!?
exactly! most of them havn't got a clue. I was thinking a lot of this faster lane blocking could be caused by satnavs saying 'keep right...keep right' at junctions because why are so many people so inconsiderate.
my way is to undertake close and loudly, give them the eyeball and the finger if possible. they need to be show that they are in the wrong place. a lot of the time i see them move over in the mirror. most are just oblivious to anything
There is something fantastically satisfying about the feel of 80mph wind rushing past my middle finger
its always bloody mini cabs aswell!! some of the only people who actually get paid to use the roads... im gonna fit a mine deployer on the back of my car

Re: Opinions on undertaking
Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:51 pm
by fuzzy
its always the same on the city bypass every morning and night, the outside lane is full of a long procession of cars with nothing on the inside. its quicker on the inside lane as theyre often down to 40 or 50 whereas the insides clear. you glide passed at 70 on the inside and still they sit there not wanting to pull over.
Re: Opinions on undertaking
Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:56 pm
by Jon_Bmw
Driving on the continent is refreshing. People get out of the overtaking lanes rapidly! Over here it is getting really silly, morons who are so worried about what they are doing later in the day are totally lacking any comprehension as to what they are currently doing in lane 3 at 65mph.

Re: Opinions on undertaking
Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 9:21 pm
by GrindCulture
I normally just sit at a safe distance and give them a few quick flashes with my headlights. If this doesn't work and it's safe then undertaking is the only option (other than patience, but why would I employ that?!)
Although people sitting in the middle lane of a totally empty motorway annoys me more, meaning I have to cross all 3 lanes to get passed (legally).
Re: Opinions on undertaking
Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 9:24 pm
by ShakeyC
Most people are forced to undertake on a regular basis because ignorant selfish stuck up self righteous twatpots think they are morally and ethically better than everyone else dwaddling along in the ouside lane.
If its someone being blatently displaying poor awareness best make them aware

Re: Opinions on undertaking
Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 9:27 pm
by Dalwhinnie
If its a rainey day, then wait until you come up against a round about, then drift round behind the inconsiderate sod... The message can then no longer be in doubt.

Re: Opinions on undertaking
Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 9:32 pm
by casper8r
Undertaking? I was under impression that passing slower traffic on the right isn't the same as undertaking, unless you're pulling back into their lane? Otherwise going faster (while still below the limit) on the left hand lane before leaving the motorway could be classed as undertaking?
I do it quite often but I try not to make a point, it's not my job to teach them to drive (though I've given them the evil look I'm not too proud of it).
Re: Opinions on undertaking
Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 9:33 pm
by fuzzy
its the coonts that go from the inside lane and cut across the 2nd lane on roundabouts then back to the inside lane as they exit the roundabout that fook me off. there 2 lanes approaching, 2 lanes exiting . where do they think the second lane is meant to go if they go straight across?
Re: Opinions on undertaking
Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 9:39 pm
by oakey
Roadside lawyer says:
"There is no specific offence of passing on the inside -- probably because in laned urban driving, for example approaching a roundabout at low speed, this is everyday and accepted practice -- however should an accident occur as a result of such a manoeuvre on the open road such as a dual carriageway or motorway, a charge of careless driving might ensue and (more likely) liability for the accident would be significantly apportioned against the driver passing on the inside."
"The safest option to take should you encounter such drivers, is to first warn them at a safe distance by flashing your lights in an attempt to persuade them to move over. If the car in front does not seem to use mirrors and this does not work, you may wish to sound your horn to draw attention to your light flashing."
Re: Opinions on undertaking
Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 9:40 pm
by Rich_W
I do laps of them.
Overake them in Lane 3 drop to Lane 1. Let them overtake then go back to Lane 3 again. and so on and so on.
Record so far is 5 laps in about 10 mins before they realised. I reckon in a decent size journey could get that much higher!

Re: Opinions on undertaking
Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 9:46 pm
by oakey
Rich_W wrote:I do laps of them.
Overake them in Lane 3 drop to Lane 1. Let them overtake then go back to Lane 3 again. and so on and so on.
Record so far is 5 laps in about 10 mins before they realised. I reckon in a decent size journey could get that much higher!

No good if you need to get somewhere quick though

Re: Opinions on undertaking
Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 9:48 pm
by eltelturbo
sitting behind them with the right indicator flashing sometimes works...thats how they do it in germany.
someone should start a facebook group called 'this is how to drive on a road with more than 1 lane! pass it on to everyone...now!'
Re: Opinions on undertaking
Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 9:50 pm
by ShakeyC
Using wrong lane on roundabouts irritates me way more than motorway lane hoggers! If im in the 2nd lane and some twat cuts across i make sure im right along side them so they cannot cut across dangerously or be lazy with the steering wheel.