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Best suspension set up for road use...?

Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 11:25 pm
by roy46ss
Im upgrading my suspension and there are a couple of set-ups I`m aware of:

1. - Koni top adjustable shocks
- H&R/Eibach anti-roll bars
- Eibach 35mm springs

2. - Bilstein shocks B6/B8
- Bilstein springs 45mm
- H&R/Eibach anti-roll bars

3. - H&R cup kit
- H&R/Eibach anti-roll bars

4. - Spax sport kit
- H&R/Eibach anti-roll bars

I would also like to add M3 negative camber top-mounts, M3 offset rear wishbone bushes and strut braces front and rear and replace any worn bushes.

I was hoping to get advice on which set up to go with or if there are better out there please feel free to let me know.

Re: Best suspension set up for road use...?

Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 11:27 pm
by fuzzy
spax are very hard.ive not used koni on my e30 but the bilsteins i have are good.

Re: Best suspension set up for road use...?

Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 11:30 pm
by roy46ss
What kind of Bilsteins are you running?

Re: Best suspension set up for road use...?

Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 11:37 pm
by Morat
I use Eibach 35mm springs
Bilstein Shocks (I can't remember what number, but they're the right length for the springs)
Eibach roll bars

I live in the country and wanted something really chuckable for back lanes, but also able to ride over poor surfaces and potholes. We don't have speedbumps out here, but I have no problem with them in Tescos :) I'm very happy with the results.

Re: Best suspension set up for road use...?

Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 11:37 pm
by Blitz
Apprently the best is

Bilstein shocks B8
- H&R/Eibach springs 35mm
- H&R/Eibach anti-roll bars

Re: Best suspension set up for road use...?

Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 11:43 pm
by bss325i
Blitz wrote:Apprently the best is

Bilstein shocks B8
- H&R/Eibach springs 35mm
- H&R/Eibach anti-roll bars
100% spot on!

I use eibach springs, Bilsten B8's and H&R roll bars.

H&R 35mm springs,Bilsten B8's and H&R roll bars were on my other E30 which is now sold.

Re: Best suspension set up for road use...?

Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 11:59 pm
by roy46ss
So then - bilstein b8 shocks
- H&R/ Eibach 35mm springs
- H&R/Eibach anti-roll bars
Are on the money?

Re: Best suspension set up for road use...?

Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 12:16 am
by bss325i
roy46ss wrote:So then - bilstein b8 shocks
- H&R/ Eibach 35mm springs
- H&R/Eibach anti-roll bars
Are on the money?
Yes for everyday road use.

Re: Best suspension set up for road use...?

Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 12:20 am
by Bob_S
I am running H&R springs, B6 front shocks, e36 328i b4 rear shocks, H&R arb's and a front brace. Can't fault it at all.. soft enough for north wales' finest pot holes and hard enough for track days out :)

Re: Best suspension set up for road use...?

Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 12:36 am
by Morat
bss325i wrote:
Blitz wrote:Apprently the best is

Bilstein shocks B8
- H&R/Eibach springs 35mm
- H&R/Eibach anti-roll bars
100% spot on!

I use eibach springs, Bilsten B8's and H&R roll bars.

H&R 35mm springs,Bilsten B8's and H&R roll bars were on my other E30 which is now sold.
Was there much difference between the Eibach and HnR springs? I'm not likely to change over just to find out, so I'd be interested to hear your experience...

Re: Best suspension set up for road use...?

Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 12:40 am
by bss325i
Morat wrote:
bss325i wrote:
Blitz wrote:Apprently the best is

Bilstein shocks B8
- H&R/Eibach springs 35mm
- H&R/Eibach anti-roll bars
100% spot on!

I use eibach springs, Bilsten B8's and H&R roll bars.

H&R 35mm springs,Bilsten B8's and H&R roll bars were on my other E30 which is now sold.
Was there much difference between the Eibach and HnR springs? I'm not likely to change over just to find out, so I'd be interested to hear your experience...
The ride comfort is near on identical. The only difference is under hard use as due the H&R's being progressively wound and eibachs having thicker coils, the feel slightly different when being loaded up.

Re: Best suspension set up for road use...?

Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 1:20 am
by billgatese30
b8's, mtech sport springs and eibach roll bars work well too

Re: Best suspension set up for road use...?

Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 2:44 pm
by cirrusloon
Blitz wrote:Apprently the best is

Bilstein shocks B8
- H&R/Eibach springs 35mm
- H&R/Eibach anti-roll bars
I have this same set-up on mine - save for the ARB's.

It's great for fast road use and relatively compliant given the drop.
A decent set of ARB's and poly bushes will toughen everything else up a treat.

Re: Best suspension set up for road use...?

Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 3:02 pm
by DanThe
fuzzy wrote:spax are very hard.ive not used koni on my e30 but the bilsteins i have are good.
Spax dampers are very hard, the springs are soft though and useless with anything less than B6's/B8's

Ive got H&R springs and B8's, they are very good 8)

Re: Best suspension set up for road use...?

Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 3:23 pm
by Boyraceruk
How do I tell what Bilstein dampers my car came with? What's the difference between B6 and B8 anyway?

Re: Best suspension set up for road use...?

Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 6:00 pm
by da4x4turbo
B8's and B6's are pretty much the same I think. But the B8's are designed to deal with a bigger suspension drop. e.g. -60mm instead of -30mm

I have a quick question too, there are 2 sets of Eibach springs listed, one for a a car with 825kg's of load on the front, one for a car with 875kg's +

Which ones do I need for my 325i Sport ?

Cheers,

Re: Best suspension set up for road use...?

Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 7:51 pm
by Jhonno
Eibach are just M3 springs but shorter..

Best suspension for road use, depends entirely on what your road use is..

Re: Best suspension set up for road use...?

Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 7:59 pm
by fuzzy
DanThe wrote:
fuzzy wrote:spax are very hard.ive not used koni on my e30 but the bilsteins i have are good.
Spax dampers are very hard, the springs are soft though and useless with anything less than B6's/B8's

Ive got H&R springs and B8's, they are very good 8)
exactly what i have, bilstein b6/b8 and the spax springs from the adjustable psx kit. it does the job.
best is entirely subjective though.

Re: Best suspension set up for road use...?

Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 8:11 pm
by casper8r
Where do you get your Bilsteins/springs from?

Re: Best suspension set up for road use...?

Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 8:24 pm
by Dave_M3
B8s and Eibach springs for me and I find them excellent.
Will probably get Eibach arbs soon enough to complete the set-up
da4x4turbo wrote:B8's and B6's are pretty much the same I think. But the B8's are designed to deal with a bigger suspension drop. e.g. -60mm instead of -30mm

I have a quick question too, there are 2 sets of Eibach springs listed, one for a a car with 825kg's of load on the front, one for a car with 875kg's +

Which ones do I need for my 325i Sport ?

Cheers,

Yep, B6s are the same as B8s. Both are heavy-duty inverted shocks but the B8s are designed for shorter springs to avoid the shock being under compression all the time resulting excessive rebound every time you come out of dip or over a crest etc.

The 825 and 875 doesn't refer to 4 cyl. and 6 cyl. does it?

Re: Best suspension set up for road use...?

Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 8:17 am
by da4x4turbo
Eureka !

Yeah that's probably it. I had specified the 875kg + ones myself on the internet. The boy on the phone confused me with this.

I'll double check and see what the craic is

Re: Best suspension set up for road use...?

Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 6:10 pm
by casper8r
Ok, let's see if anyone notices it this time
casper8r wrote:Where do you get your Bilsteins/springs from?
Call me paranoid but it looks like Evolve and the Zone broke up, I've looked at GSF and ECP, maybe my Google-fu is weak? Can't seem to find a place that sells Bilstein B6 absorbers and/or suspension kits.

Where did you get yours from?

Re: Best suspension set up for road use...?

Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 6:17 pm
by Simon13
da4x4turbo wrote:B8's and B6's are pretty much the same I think. But the B8's are designed to deal with a bigger suspension drop. e.g. -60mm instead of -30mm

I have a quick question too, there are 2 sets of Eibach springs listed, one for a a car with 825kg's of load on the front, one for a car with 875kg's +

Which ones do I need for my 325i Sport ?

Cheers,
they are not the same!

the B6 is a good 2 inches shorter in length with a smaller damper rod. They work better with a 60mm drop rather than the B8's

Re: Best suspension set up for road use...?

Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 6:37 pm
by George
Similar setup recommended on the vert considering the lack of roof /stiffness?

Re: Best suspension set up for road use...?

Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 6:44 pm
by fuzzy
casper8r wrote:Ok, let's see if anyone notices it this time
casper8r wrote:Where do you get your Bilsteins/springs from?
Call me paranoid but it looks like Evolve and the Zone broke up, I've looked at GSF and ECP, maybe my Google-fu is weak? Can't seem to find a place that sells Bilstein B6 absorbers and/or suspension kits.

Where did you get yours from?
evolve quoted me the cheapest price at the time. you can still buy them there.

Re: Best suspension set up for road use...?

Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 6:52 pm
by Simon13
GeorgeUK wrote:Similar setup recommended on the vert considering the lack of roof /stiffness?
strut brace is a must helps take the shake over the bumps, cabs are for cruising the bilsteins are hard riding a nice new m-tech boge or B4 damper would be better imo

Re: Best suspension set up for road use...?

Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 8:10 pm
by casper8r
fuzzy wrote: evolve quoted me the cheapest price at the time. you can still buy them there.
cheers Fuzzy! :)

Re: Best suspension set up for road use...?

Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 1:00 am
by Barx325i
billies & eibachs

Re: Best suspension set up for road use...?

Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 5:43 pm
by George
Simon13 wrote:
GeorgeUK wrote:Similar setup recommended on the vert considering the lack of roof /stiffness?
strut brace is a must helps take the shake over the bumps, cabs are for cruising the bilsteins are hard riding a nice new m-tech boge or B4 damper would be better imo
Combined with Eibach springs?

Re: Best suspension set up for road use...?

Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 7:10 pm
by bss325i
GeorgeUK wrote:
Simon13 wrote:
GeorgeUK wrote:Similar setup recommended on the vert considering the lack of roof /stiffness?
strut brace is a must helps take the shake over the bumps, cabs are for cruising the bilsteins are hard riding a nice new m-tech boge or B4 damper would be better imo
Combined with Eibach springs?
Yes.

Re: Best suspension set up for road use...?

Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 7:39 pm
by Barx325i
bss325i wrote:
GeorgeUK wrote:
Simon13 wrote: strut brace is a must helps take the shake over the bumps, cabs are for cruising the bilsteins are hard riding a nice new m-tech boge or B4 damper would be better imo
Combined with Eibach springs?
Yes.
eibachs won't fail to disappoint in the slightest. there's a picture of them next to the word plush in the collins dictionary, and for fast road applications, they're so refined you can almost taste them.

Re: Best suspension set up for road use...?

Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 8:07 pm
by Simon13
horses for courses but you won't go wrong with either eibach or H&R. both are quality. Me i'd probably go with eibachs on a cab aswell