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Air con - what is it worth?

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 1:23 pm
by ROC
Fellas, collected a charming 316i moredoor today, it has original air con system that works very well.

What is the going rate for the system please? I seem to remember reading about different types of gas, is there a way to identify what sort it is using?

Thanks a lot,

Rich.

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 1:43 pm
by e30cossie
On all cars there is normaly a sticker with all the infomation. It will be r12 or r134a. If you can get a picture of the charging port I could also tell you (take the plastic cap off and get a picture).

I have a drop in replacement for r12 if that is any use ?

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Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 1:47 pm
by cypriot_boy_2k7
around £150-£200 there has been a changeover on gas, bmw do a kit for it. any interest in selling the a/c

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 2:36 pm
by ROC
Thanks lads,


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Bit of an odd car in some ways, the fella I got it from said it was imported from Guernsey. The speedo is in km/h there is a proper sump guard (the thick one), one of those extra fuel tanks behind the seats, the VIN plate says made in South Africa.

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 2:45 pm
by e30cossie
That is a r12 port

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Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 2:49 pm
by ROC
Thanks cossie, does that mean that it can't be re gassed when it needs it?

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 2:56 pm
by e30cossie
You cannot get r12 anymore and everyone will say convert it to the new r134a. I am a air conditioning engineer and have a drop in replacement for r12 .

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 3:01 pm
by cypriot_boy_2k7
e30cossie wrote:You cannot get r12 anymore and everyone will say convert it to the new r134a. I am a air conditioning engineer and have a drop in replacement for r12 .
how much, what do you get

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 3:19 pm
by e30cossie
I charge £60 to recharge the refrigerant on any car ,but it depends on where you are.

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Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 3:30 pm
by ROC
Thanks for the help cossie, further to the sump guard etc check out this subtle accessory on the dash :)

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Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 3:30 pm
by cypriot_boy_2k7
oh you have a gas in replacement to the r12

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 3:48 pm
by e30cossie
I use 413a as a drop in replacement for r12.

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Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 3:52 pm
by cypriot_boy_2k7
ok whats the differance in them, want to know cos im studying this at college

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 4:01 pm
by e30cossie
I do not know what you mean?

R12 is now illegal and can no longer buy.
R413a is legal and a recommended drop in replacement for the automotive industry.

Some garages charge r12 systems with r134a. It does work for a while but the refrigerant drags the oil from the compressor causing it to fail.

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 4:08 pm
by cypriot_boy_2k7
e30cossie wrote: Some garages charge r12 systems with r134a. It does work for a while but the refrigerant drags the oil from the compressor causing it to fail.
ive read that quite oftern,
413a is MO49 correct?

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 4:12 pm
by e30cossie
I think mo49 is the same but have not used it myself. Different gas companies recommend different gases.

What are you doing at college ?

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Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 4:28 pm
by cypriot_boy_2k7
HVAC service and maintinance

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Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 4:55 pm
by Simon13
thats a SA built car then! RHD with knh speedo. Where sump guards and A/C where standard fit on all E30's out there

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Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 5:11 pm
by swindler
e30 cossie are you near London?

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Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 5:15 pm
by DanThe
Post a pic up of the sump guard, show all these alloy plate pansies what a proper sump guard looks like winkeye

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 5:19 pm
by e30cossie
I am in Luton and do a lot of work in London.

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Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 5:29 pm
by swindler
When are you next here? I'm in Kennington SE11 could you top up mine (I'm assuming it hasn't been converted)
The condensor seems to click in fine
It's Manual climate control, same thing isn't it?

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 6:12 pm
by e30cossie
pm me a contact number

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Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 6:16 pm
by ROC
DanThe wrote:Post a pic up of the sump guard, show all these alloy plate pansies what a proper sump guard looks like winkeye
It's a good un Dan, makes the one on my Touring look like tinfoil :D


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Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 6:20 pm
by jamie323i
ROC wrote:Thanks for the help cossie, further to the sump guard etc check out this subtle accessory on the dash :)

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Do you reckon it could of been a taxi? :?

Thats the sort of thing they would have fitted,not very subtle though! 8O

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Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 6:40 pm
by DanThe
ROC wrote:
DanThe wrote:Post a pic up of the sump guard, show all these alloy plate pansies what a proper sump guard looks like winkeye
It's a good un Dan, makes the one on my Touring look like tinfoil :D


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They are good, ive bounced mine off bricks and uneven road at speed when the suspensions been loaded up, alloy plate would just disintegrate in comparison

Crackin piece of kit :thumb:

When you take it off could you get some photos of the mounting holes in the chassis?

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Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 6:54 pm
by ROC
DanThe wrote:When you take it off could you get some photos of the mounting holes in the chassis?
Will do :thumb:

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Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 9:24 pm
by dannosail
I've got a South African E30 saloon as well except the seat belt sign is up with the check panel. Is this a genuine BMW accessory?

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Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 10:12 pm
by Brianmoooore
Never thought about where the seat belt warning would be on a four pot, in countries where it's compulsory!
On six pots, it's part of the blank square (in the UK) on the LH side of the roof mounted 'check' panel.

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Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 4:20 pm
by Gwynleym10
those pics do look familiar... Yes the seat belt thing was there from new.

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and this was the km when I sold it;

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I bought it from a South African couple who bought it from new and then imported it to the UK. When I went to pick it up they told me it was the wife's car, he had a proper 325is (proper 5 stud 2.7) but she won the argument about which car to import to the UK :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x

I sold it after putting the sports seats in it (which were heated..) and the 15" BBS.

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Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 4:58 pm
by ROC
Nice one Gwyn, thanks for the pictures.

I thought you must have put the sports seats in. It does not look a lot different nowadays, the BBS have gone awol and it has ended up on bottletops :cry:, the bootlid has gained a small lip spoiler.