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3-Litre M20 with 240 Bhp?
Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 9:51 pm
by Stifla
Just spotted this slightly tired looking old girl on the 'bay and wondered wether this is a feasible?
Is there enough meat on the M20 block for it to be bored out to three litres or is this guy trying it on?
Everything looks pretty standard to me...
Looks like it needs a bit of tlc too!
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BMW-E30-3-Series- ... 240%3A1318
Re: 3-Litre M20 with 240 Bhp?
Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 9:52 pm
by GrindCulture
There's a guy on here in Oz with 260bhp M20B30
But I very much doubt that turd is anything special at all...
Re: 3-Litre M20 with 240 Bhp?
Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 9:54 pm
by bss325i
Metric mechanics do kits to build 3.2 M20's!
Re: 3-Litre M20 with 240 Bhp?
Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 9:56 pm
by bss325i
Re: 3-Litre M20 with 240 Bhp?
Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:02 pm
by tinnaM42
that car is a bag of death dont buy it looks like a rite scrapper
Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:03 pm
by petrol_1
I see its still got the std small bore 2l inlet manifold so doubt
its got over 180 or even the std 2l 125 bhp
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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:21 pm
by kam-325i
I doubt that engine has been bored out.............
If someone had spent the time/money to increase the CC's, i think that they would of changed a few other bits aswell to get the best out of it.......
I vote standard 320iA
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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:24 pm
by maxfield
Bullshit.
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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:29 pm
by stonesie
Standard exhaust manifold too, has anyone else spotted the location? im suprised it's not advertised as a 'Sport'
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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:32 pm
by Stifla
kam-325i wrote:If someone had spent the time/money to increase the CC's, i think that they would of changed a few other bits aswell to get the best out of it.......
I have to agree, and i doubt they would have mated it to a slushy lazy-leg box either!
Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:38 pm
by Cloggy Saint
As soon as you see "I've been told it has a 3 litre engine" you know it hasn't!
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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:45 pm
by Rosc0PColtrane
It's all boll0cks.
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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 11:15 pm
by Aubs
Even if it were true, what kind of person would build that engine and then keep the autobox
Re: 3-Litre M20 with 240 Bhp?
Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 11:38 pm
by steve_k
have you seen the stroker kit?? nearly $2000!!!
whats that work out to at the current exchange rate?
& i wonder if ant at a-tech would take the job on?
but that would be fun for the friday night traffic light grand prix!!!
(goes off to find a ski mask a sawn off shot gun & a hold all & wait for the banks to open).
don't qoute me on that bit ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^please??
Re: 3-Litre M20 with 240 Bhp?
Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 12:45 am
by 1an
325msport wrote:
have you seen the stroker kit?? nearly $2000!!!
whats that work out to at the current exchange rate?
& i wonder if ant at a-tech would take the job on?
but that would be fun for the friday night traffic light grand prix!!!
(goes off to find a ski mask a sawn off shot gun & a hold all & wait for the banks to open).
don't qoute me on that bit ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^please??
believe they have been talked about before and it would turn and m20 into a bit of a slug apparently,
Re: 3-Litre M20 with 240 Bhp?
Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 2:33 pm
by ricey46
Someone's taking the piss.....
The enquiry is complete
The vehicle details for H346 GGV are:
Date of Liability 22 11 2008
Date of First Registration 22 05 1991
Year of Manufacture 1991
Cylinder Capacity (cc) 1990CC
CO2 Emissions Not Available
Fuel Type Petrol
Export Marker Not Applicable
Vehicle Status Unlicensed
Vehicle Colour BLUE
Vehicle Type Approval null
This vehicle can be licensed at a DVLA Local Office without the V5C Registration Certificate
The information contained on this page is correct at the time of enquiry.
Vehicle Excise Duty Rate for vehicle
6 Months Rate £101.75
12 Months Rate £185.00
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Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 3:15 pm
by gooner1
Mr_Gerbic_iS wrote:Even if it were true, what kind of person would build that engine and then keep the autobox
The sort that would have two different types of wheel on a car,
maybe they are the same size.
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Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 5:26 pm
by Jesus325iTouring
Correct me if i'm wrong but is that also a 320 inlet?
Re: 3-Litre M20 with 240 Bhp?
Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 6:40 pm
by march109
Metric mechanics do one too, but is 3.1 as you say. Seems the biggest you can go given crank availability and bore spacing.
Re: 3-Litre M20 with 240 Bhp?
Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 6:43 pm
by Simon13
i just can't see those 3.1's being free revving at all, they are a massive stroker donk
Re: 3-Litre M20 with 240 Bhp?
Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 6:54 pm
by tinnaM42
ricey46 were do you get that spec sheet from??
Re: 3-Litre M20 with 240 Bhp?
Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 7:05 pm
by zimmer-320i
apart from the bable about the enigneit seems a nice car, thing is if he hadnt mention a was told, and also saying its a 3.0 then i think its a good avarge e30!
Re: 3-Litre M20 with 240 Bhp?
Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 7:07 pm
by march109
I'm happy with the 2.9L specced with 135mm rods, the 130mm rods seem to short imo.
For a start there would be less maximum con rod dynamic load.
Re: 3-Litre M20 with 240 Bhp?
Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 9:13 pm
by bss325i
zimmer-320i wrote:apart from the bable about the enigneit seems a nice car, thing is if he hadnt mention a was told, and also saying its a 3.0 then i think its a good avarge e30!
Just looking at the pics that car is a f*cking peice of shit ready for the scrap yard! If thats you idea of a nice car then you need to see a car that actually is nice!
Re: 3-Litre M20 with 240 Bhp?
Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 9:29 pm
by ricey46
tinnaM42 wrote:ricey46 were do you get that spec sheet from??
You get if from the DVLA web site, do a Vehicle Enquiry...
http://www.taxdisc.direct.gov.uk/EvlPortalApp/index.jsp
Re: 3-Litre M20 with 240 Bhp?
Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 9:35 pm
by Jhonno
Location: Birmingham...
Nuff said.
Surprised it isn't a 'Sport'
That engine has clearly never been touched, and 5 speed auto?!
Complete turd
Re: 3-Litre M20 with 240 Bhp?
Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 10:22 pm
by tinnaM42
cheers ricey46
Re: 3-Litre M20 with 240 Bhp?
Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 10:32 pm
by Stifla
ricey46 wrote:Someone's taking the pee pee.....
The enquiry is complete
The vehicle details for H346 GGV are:
Date of Liability 22 11 2008
Date of First Registration 22 05 1991
Year of Manufacture 1991
Cylinder Capacity (cc) 1990CC
CO2 Emissions Not Available
Fuel Type Petrol
Export Marker Not Applicable
Vehicle Status Unlicensed
Vehicle Colour BLUE
Vehicle Type Approval null
This vehicle can be licensed at a DVLA Local Office without the V5C Registration Certificate
The information contained on this page is correct at the time of enquiry.
Vehicle Excise Duty Rate for vehicle
6 Months Rate £101.75
12 Months Rate £185.00
Whilst that kind of info is very useful, if the owner isnt an honest person it wouldnt be updated with the right info and be entirely accurate!
A bit like those people who sell a Nova fitted with a 2.0l lump on ebay saying they have driven it for the past year like that and in the listing state that its still a 1.2l on the log book....
Re: 3-Litre M20 with 240 Bhp?
Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 10:35 pm
by tinnaM42
very true
Re: 3-Litre M20 with 240 Bhp?
Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 11:33 am
by zimmer-320i
bss325i wrote:zimmer-320i wrote:apart from the bable about the enigneit seems a nice car, thing is if he hadnt mention a was told, and also saying its a 3.0 then i think its a good avarge e30!
Just looking at the pics that car is a f*cking peice of shit ready for the scrap yard! If thats you idea of a nice car then you need to see a car that actually is nice!
i
SAID is seems nice and its a
avrage car
i know its not a nice car as such becasue of the rust and horribly dirty engine bay, apart from that it would look ok!!!
Re: 3-Litre M20 with 240 Bhp?
Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 2:09 pm
by bss325i
NICE and AVERAGE are two different things.
The car is neither of them!
Re: 3-Litre M20 with 240 Bhp?
Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 2:12 pm
by fuzzy
zimmer-320i wrote:
i know its not a nice car as such becasue of the rust and horribly dirty engine bay, apart from that it would look ok!!!
yep, nice condition apart from the rust, scrapes, dirt etc etc. if it didnt have that it might be average but it does so its a scrapper.
thats like saying my touring does 0-60 in under 3 seconds. it would if it had 700bhp but it hasnt so it doesnt .
Re: 3-Litre M20 with 240 Bhp?
Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 5:23 pm
by zimmer-320i
fuzzy wrote:zimmer-320i wrote:
i know its not a nice car as such becasue of the rust and horribly dirty engine bay, apart from that it would look ok!!!
yep, nice condition apart from the rust, scrapes, dirt etc etc. if it didnt have that it might be average but it does so its a scrapper.
thats like saying my touring does 0-60 in under 3 seconds. it would if it had 700bhp but it hasnt so it doesnt .
how can you compare that rust to a engine!!
and i dont agree its a scrapper but then with no mot it might be
Re: 3-Litre M20 with 240 Bhp?
Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 7:33 pm
by tinnaM42
that car is a scrapper end of
Re: 3-Litre M20 with 240 Bhp?
Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 7:42 pm
by bodger
imagine the disappointment if you took it for a test drive and realised it was a turd of a 320 slush-box