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whats this,

Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 5:02 pm
by cypriot_boy_2k7
apart from being a sticker?
what does it mean no oil change

http://www.bmminiparts.com/PartDetails. ... AF800DFC83

Re: whats this,

Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 5:05 pm
by asmith88
exactly what it says on the tin, whatever oil it is with, dosen't need changing.

would like to know what that oil is though.. :cool:

Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 5:05 pm
by e30325inl
for an auto, sealed for life transmission
never change the fluids in a bmw auto
not like the mercs where a good flush out sorts em out
screws them

Re: whats this,

Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 5:06 pm
by maxfield
For gearboxes that supposedly have lifetime oil in them...

Re: whats this,

Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 5:07 pm
by fuzzy
dont some auto transmissions come as sealed units?

Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 5:11 pm
by e30325inl
all the new stuff from like e39 onwards i think, any problems you cant sort out by reprogramming you just chuck it and stick a new one in..

i think this is true anyhows

if u go onto honestjohn.co.uk and read any review of recent bmws look at all the warnings that go with going near auto's

Re:

Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 5:13 pm
by maxfield
Fairly certain you can still empty the oil and refill..

Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 5:15 pm
by e30325inl
you can do it but its 100 per cent unadvisable.

Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 5:20 pm
by e30325inl
General Warning about Automatic Transmissions: Many BMWs have "sealed for life" automatic transmissions. Regardless of whether you have a full BMW service history, the dealer will never change the auto fluid. Many of these boxes are failing around the 120-150k mark - often well outside of warranty and to a cost of £3.5k plus VAT. A good independent or automatic transmission specialist can and will change the fluid for you (and any good BMW independents will recommend this anyway). This is commonplace in the US and means the 'box should last the life of the car rather than being the cause of it being written off. General advice is ensure the fluid is flushed out every 60k or more preferably at each Inspection II. However, one specialist says autoboxes do not take well to being drained and having their ATF replaced.

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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 5:32 pm
by Brianmoooore
Life time oil it says, and life time oil it means!
What it doesn't say is that the life in question will be extremely short by BMW standards, if the oil isn't changed.

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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 5:48 pm
by jamie323i
I had the sealed for life oil changed in my E39,the specialist recommended it,and he worked for BMW 10 years or more!

Well worth doing in my opinion,and others too,oil cannot last forever.

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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 7:30 pm
by cypriot_boy_2k7
some very good points there, so its worth a change

Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 7:52 pm
by town325i
e30325inl wrote:all the new stuff from like e39 onwards i think, any problems you cant sort out by reprogramming you just chuck it and stick a new one in..

i think this is true anyhows

if u go onto honestjohn.co.uk and read any review of recent bmws look at all the warnings that go with going near auto's
i think they are in earlier cars than that

Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 10:40 pm
by Simon13
e30325inl wrote:you can do it but its 100 per cent unadvisable.
are you being funny?

Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 10:48 pm
by e30325inl
apparently they are better unchanged, i cant imagine why


But why dont bmw ever change it even on a car with full bmw service history and 180k on the clock
Because they honestly believe the box will take better to being left alone than to having nice new oil

I cant see why either but they must know something and have their reasons i thought mercedes boxes were made by zf too and they need fluid changes

Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 11:01 pm
by Andy_roo
Ive had two boxes 'opened' and fluid renewed with same and the filters done, like a new car is what i say, sealed for life, i dont think so.

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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 11:04 pm
by Bob_S
my mates e39's autobox has just papped it.
£750 later and 1001 comments of, the oil should be changed around 100k or at inspection 2's even BMW quoting it.
They won't last for life or rather that life is about 150k without an oil change.. and they are a pita to do :(