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Can@t believe this.........
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 4:24 pm
by Chris36
Guys just after someones advice.......
come home from work to see my car clamped.
Ive just MOT'd it. After its been sat for 3 years.
It passed ok, so thought I would leave it parked up And apply for the V5.
Done this on wednesday. As its impossible to sorn or tax a car without it.
Anyway car is completely physically off the road (its on the grass verge outside my house). but still DVLC have clamped it for no tax.
They want £100 to release the clamp.
Is the car on the road or off it????
Thanks for your help. What next??
Re: Can@t believe this.........
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 4:26 pm
by B7
Off the road means on your drive or front garden. Gras verge outside your house is still public highway and it must be taxed to be legal.
Re: Can@t believe this.........
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 4:27 pm
by town325i
cut the clamp off with a 9" grinder
Re: Can@t believe this.........
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 4:28 pm
by Cloud
Find (possibly make) a sharp edge on the clamp.
Cut your hand/arm/face on the sharp edge.
Ring a solicitor.
Re: Can@t believe this.........
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 4:28 pm
by town325i
if you have the green slip off the log book you can tax your car
Re: Can@t believe this.........
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 4:29 pm
by Chris36
B7 wrote:Off the road means on your drive or front garden. Gras verge outside your house is still public highway and it must be taxed to be legal.
bollox thought someone would say this............swallow the bitter pill then.......
Re: Can@t believe this.........
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 4:30 pm
by Chris36
town325i wrote:if you have the green slip off the log book you can tax your car
No V5 at all - sent it to the dvla. do have confirmation of post though.
Re: Can@t believe this.........
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 4:31 pm
by fuzzy
is it on private property? thje grass at the side of the road doesnt count as off the road unless its private property. im surprised its only £100. usually its £120 + the cost of 6 months tax + the cost of the release fee. and you get the £120 refunded when you produce a valid tax disc at the impound office. it cost me just over £300 on one of mine to get unclamped but that was the cost of 6 moths tax included then £120 refunded.
you will also geta fine through the post in a week or 2 for back dated road tax to when it was last taxed.
Re: Can@t believe this.........
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 4:31 pm
by asmith88
depends who the police are.. i had a car on the road and i just got warned, if you get an arse on a bad day then your fecked
Re: Can@t believe this.........
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 4:32 pm
by charlE30
As B7 said it's got to be on your property or it's classed as public highway, there was one guy on here that got his car clamped and maybe even removed IIRC. He thought he was OK as it was in his allocated parking bay outside his house. Not much you can do about it really.
Did it pass with no work after being sat for 3 years?? quite impressive if it did
Re: Can@t believe this.........
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 4:32 pm
by DanThe
It doesnt matter if you have applied for anything, if the car has no tax it illegal.
Cloud has the best plan
Re: Can@t believe this.........
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 4:32 pm
by Chris36
town325i wrote:cut the clamp off with a 9" grinder
Could get this done? They can't prove I did it can they?
Re: Can@t believe this.........
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 4:32 pm
by fuzzy
town325i wrote:cut the clamp off with a 9" grinder
not advisable if its a dvla clamp.
Re: Can@t believe this.........
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 4:34 pm
by DanThe
Do a mock up photo of 'the local pikeys' nicking it
Re: Can@t believe this.........
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 4:38 pm
by fuzzy
...and usually the release fee fine doubles if not released within 24 hours...
Re: Can@t believe this.........
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 4:38 pm
by asmith88
my brother angle grinded a clamp of, they just did him for that anyway and fined him extra
Re: Can@t believe this.........
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 4:41 pm
by Cloud
Get some strong mates to carry the car onto your drive way.
Then ask the DVLA why they were trespassing.
Re: Can@t believe this.........
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 4:42 pm
by fuzzy
Re: Can@t believe this.........
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 4:43 pm
by DanThe
They take photo's now cloud
Re: Can@t believe this.........
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 4:43 pm
by fuzzy
Cloud wrote:Get some strong mates to carry the car onto your drive way.
Then ask the DVLA why they were trespassing.
in this modern age they have digital cameras to prevend anything like this...
Re: Can@t believe this.........
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 4:48 pm
by DanThe
What a pi55 take, they are just making it as difficult and costly as possible to get your car back
To get your vehicle released you'll need to:
pay a release fee of £100
produce a valid tax disc
If you don’t produce a tax disc you’ll need to pay a surety (deposit) instead. This is £160 for a car or motorcycle and up to £700 for other vehicles.
You’ll get the surety payment back when you tax your vehicle and produce a valid tax disc. If you fail to produce a tax disc within two weeks you’ll lose the surety payment and your vehicle could be clamped again and again.
Release after 24 hours
To release your vehicle, you’ll need to pay a £200 fee, and any storage charges of £21 per day, as well as producing a valid tax disc or surety payment.
Provided you’re registered as the vehicle keeper, DVLA will write to inform you that your vehicle has been impounded and will be disposed of unless all fees are paid.
You could also face prosecution with fines up to £1,000 as well as paying any arrears of vehicle tax owed and costs.
Unclaimed vehicles are crushed after seven days. Vehicles of economic value are disposed of after 14 days. Any vehicles of significant value are resold at auction.
Its all about getting as much money as possible out of the public, nothing to do with illegal cars/safety/environment bollocks
Re: Can@t believe this.........
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 4:50 pm
by fuzzy
thats the point. if it was easy there would be no point buying road tax.
Re: Can@t believe this.........
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 4:55 pm
by DanThe
The blokes been caught out though, he cant even tax it as he doesnt have the V5, we all know it can take up to a month or two to get a V5 through! How is he supposed to produce a tax disc within two weeks if thats the situation?
If I were you id get out there now and start stripping it
Re: Can@t believe this.........
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 4:58 pm
by CHR1S1990
quick question..what happens if u dont sorn or tax ur car...but its kept on private property?
Re: Can@t believe this.........
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 4:58 pm
by fuzzy
thats his problem and he should have thought about it before leaving it on a public road and that is the attitude of the dvla.
Re: Can@t believe this.........
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 5:01 pm
by magpie
bad luck m8.fookin tax police
Re: Can@t believe this.........
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 5:01 pm
by fuzzy
CHR1S1990 wrote:quick question..what happens if u dont sorn or tax ur car...but its kept on private property?
they cant clamp or remove the car if its on private property. they could issue fines through the post.
if you were to remove the reg plate and leave it on private property they wouldnt have a number to trace but whats the point ? all the details are on the computer if its in your name and on your propert.just sorn it on line in 2 or 3 minutes and theres no hassle at all.
Re: Can@t believe this.........
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 5:02 pm
by DanThe
CHR1S1990 wrote:quick question..what happens if u dont sorn or tax ur car...but its kept on private property?
You are liable for the tax from the date it ran out
Re: Can@t believe this.........
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 5:03 pm
by CHR1S1990
i agree, it doesnt take long at all to sorn its just ive heard of this before on an old car - some pensioner lost interest and didnt tax or sorn it for years and was sat on their driveway - just wondering if they could do anything about it and what fines would incur if they tried to tax it again
cheers
Re: Can@t believe this.........
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 5:08 pm
by fuzzy
DanThe wrote:CHR1S1990 wrote:quick question..what happens if u dont sorn or tax ur car...but its kept on private property?
You are liable for the tax from the date it ran out
unless you can prove its been off road all that time with a sorn you will be sent a fine for the backdated tax . if you bought it after it was last taxed you will only have to pay from the date you took ownership but as you have no v5 id say you were fooked. is it in your name already but youve just lost the v5? if its not in your name or adress then say youve just bought it and have sent off for the v5 although they will want the persons details you allegedly purchased off.
the old "i bought it off a bloke down the pub and i dont know if it was his real name or not" could be used.
Re: Can@t believe this.........
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 5:12 pm
by CHR1S1990
its not my car, i just remember my brother telling me they were thinking of buying a car a while back off some old fella down at their unit but it had not been taxed or sorn for years apparently
as far as i know the owner still had the v5
was wondering whether it was worth the bother or not
Re: Can@t believe this.........
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 5:15 pm
by fuzzy
are you still talking about the orignal post? your clamped car? if your buying it the fact its not been taxed or sorned by the previous owner wont be your problem but you will still need to pay the fees for release as above.
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 5:17 pm
by kieran325
I had my hat nailed on a few years back by the DVLA
An old E0 touring was sat outside my driveway doing no harm as i live down a quiet close, it had MOT & Ins but the sodding tax expired only a few weeks earlier, I didn't realise as I have several cars on the go.
The van tip toed round and stung me with a shiny clamp and a fine. I paid the fine and got the car taxed, the only reason I did was because I had a cherised plate on the car and it's worth thousands more than the actual car.
It was a lesson learnt and one I dont wont to repeat but I was caught with my pants down. I fully agree catching the pikeys out who do it without a care in the world and the roadside checkpoints are a good thing.
Re: Can@t believe this.........
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 5:18 pm
by CHR1S1990
sorry i didnt write the original post, Chris36 did - i kind of intervened
chris
Re: Can@t believe this.........
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 5:28 pm
by jbh
iirc you can pay the fine without taxing the car and put it straight onto private land. i had to do this with an Audi years ago as i had no v5 i explained this and was told to pay the fine then move the car until i could tax it