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foreign drivers should be shot!!!
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 12:30 am
by m4xos
not happy, driving my e30 sensibly today along a main road, then out of no where a car pulls across two lanes from a side road and stoves it striaght into the side of my IS, what isit with foreign drivers, think hes the first one ever that actually has insurance!!
rang up my insurance, luckily protected my 5 yrs no claims 2 days ago!!! phheewww!!! and they sent me striaght to sewards, now i gotta go through the motion and try and get a few grand for it if they write it off,
they just look at it as a h reg car and that its an old shitta!! Reckon they will offer me something stupid like 400 quid!! can you still buy your cars back from insurance companys nowadays??
SOME PEOPLE CANT SEE THE E30 AS A GORGEOUS CAR!! WHATS WRONG WITH THEM??????!!!!!!!

Re: foreign drivers should be shot!!!
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 12:39 am
by Bob_S
m4xos wrote:
SOME PEOPLE CANT SEE THE E30 AS A GORGEOUS CAR!! WHATS WRONG WITH THEM??????!!!!!!!

because it's not there are a thousand cars that are prettier out there.
As for foreign drivers, how about you should have anticipated his actions slowed down and then you may have been avoiding the accident instead of getting caught out by the severe lack of pace the iS really has..
Re: foreign drivers should be shot!!!
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 12:41 am
by maggspower
Sorry to hear this man

You ok?
Yes you can still buy back the salvage, how bad is it?
Re: foreign drivers should be shot!!!
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 12:43 am
by adit
bad luck mate, i feel for you. some old dear (about 110 years old) drove into the n/s/f of my e36 iS last week and i had the estimator look at it today. i reckon they'll say my car's only worth £500 (it's an "L" reg) so may offer me £400 "to retain the salvage" i.e. get £400 and keep the car. it's only a dented front wing really, so i'll be happy with that. if the estimate is 60% or more of what they consider the value to be, then they will write it off probably, so good luck. stand your ground!
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 12:44 am
by maggspower
because it's not there are a thousand cars that are prettier out there.
As for foreign drivers, how about you should have anticipated his actions slowed down and then you may have been avoiding the accident instead of getting caught out by the severe lack of pace the iS really has..

eh?
Re: foreign drivers should be shot!!!
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 12:52 am
by m4xos
Bob_S wrote:m4xos wrote:
SOME PEOPLE CANT SEE THE E30 AS A GORGEOUS CAR!! WHATS WRONG WITH THEM??????!!!!!!!

because it's not there are a thousand cars that are prettier out there.
As for foreign drivers, how about you should have anticipated his actions slowed down and then you may have been avoiding the accident instead of getting caught out by the severe lack of pace the iS really has..
mate, do one, dont ever reply to any of my forums, everytime i say something, you got a chip on your shoulder so piss off!! dont know whats wrong with u, neva met ya, and yet youve got alot of hostility, do us all a favour and go stick your thumb up your bum!
Re: foreign drivers should be shot!!!
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 12:54 am
by m4xos
maggspower wrote:Sorry to hear this man

You ok?
Yes you can still buy back the salvage, how bad is it?
yea mate im good except for that, i will post up pics tomorrow....
its got smashed up drivers wing, bonnet smashed write up, lights/ grille/ bumper/ disintigrated!! harsh!!!
Re: foreign drivers should be shot!!!
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 6:09 am
by dannyboy759
To be fair to foreign drivers! After spending 15 years in Germany it the english who can nt drive! no one seems to know that when you pul out into the over taking lane that you pull back in again when the middle lane is clear and so on!!!!!!!
Rather than sat in the outside lane making that lane slower than the other two
No wonder our motorways are always jammed up!
Re: foreign drivers should be shot!!!
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 6:33 am
by Cloud
Anyone remember their driving lessons?
If you do, then you shouldn't wonder why so many people on the roads are such terrible drivers.
Re: foreign drivers should be shot!!!
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:49 am
by Dr Firefly
Bob_S wrote:m4xos wrote:
SOME PEOPLE CANT SEE THE E30 AS A GORGEOUS CAR!! WHATS WRONG WITH THEM??????!!!!!!!

because it's not there are a thousand cars that are prettier out there.
As for foreign drivers, how about you should have anticipated his actions slowed down and then you may have been avoiding the accident instead of getting caught out by the severe lack of pace the iS really has..
Bit harsh, he's just had his car wrecked.
Re: foreign drivers should be shot!!!
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:16 am
by Brianmoooore
m4xos wrote:mate, do one, dont ever reply to any of my forums, everytime i say something, you got a chip on your shoulder so pee pee off!! dont know whats wrong with u, neva met ya, and yet youve got alot of hostility,
Something that has been noticed by the mods!
Good advice for you there, Bob. I suggest you heed it!
m4xos: Your car is definitely a cat C write off. If you want to retain the salvage, keep the car in your possession, preferably on private land.
Re: foreign drivers should be shot!!!
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:21 am
by gudgeon
dannyboy759 wrote:To be fair to foreign drivers! After spending 15 years in Germany it the english who can nt drive! no one seems to know that when you pul out into the over taking lane that you pull back in again when the middle lane is clear and so on!!!!!!!
Rather than sat in the outside lane making that lane slower than the other two
No wonder our motorways are always jammed up!
I agree that some drivers sit inconsiderately in the outside lane, on the other hand the purpose of the 'overtaking lane' is not so that everyone else can get out of your way. If I overtake a car but there's another one 50 yds ahead that I'll need to overtake very soon I'm not going to pull over and get boxed in by the stream of nose to tailgate muppets in the outside lane, especially if I'm doing a perfectly reasonable 80mph.
Re: foreign drivers should be shot!!!
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:35 am
by Morat
This is the difference of course. In the Fatherland, 80mph in the outside lane will get you killed.
Re: foreign drivers should be shot!!!
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:43 am
by gudgeon
Morat wrote:This is the difference of course. In the Fatherland, 80mph in the outside lane will get you killed.
And is that an example of what safe drivers they are?
Honestly, I don't mean to be hostile to other drivers but there are track days for that sort of thing.
Re: foreign drivers should be shot!!!
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 12:44 pm
by m4xos
Brianmoooore wrote:m4xos wrote:mate, do one, dont ever reply to any of my forums, everytime i say something, you got a chip on your shoulder so pee pee off!! dont know whats wrong with u, neva met ya, and yet youve got alot of hostility,
Something that has been noticed by the mods!
Good advice for you there, Bob. I suggest you heed it!
m4xos: Your car is definitely a cat C write off. If you want to retain the salvage, keep the car in your possession, preferably on private land.
the zone was designed for true people like brianmoooore, he's got sense and tells it like it is, i like you!! lol, thats good advice brian! thanks, unlike Bob's!!
luckily i have every part spare that is needed to fix my car!! i will never sell my poor lil baby even if it was classed as a cat c, couple of months with a full respray from my old man should have it mint again!! woohoo!!
Re: foreign drivers should be shot!!!
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 6:08 pm
by Bob_S
to be fair I think a topic title of "foreign drivers should be shot" is not only threatening, down right disgraceful and above all a a very bold sweeping statement which is obviously complete and utter bollocks.
If people used the search function we wouldn't have so many stupid useless posts floating about which have been covered before. We live in a lazy world where it's easier for someone else to do the leg work for us.. funny how the foreigners can be arsed to move over find a job and make a living when we have so many people claiming more benefits than the government can offer.
Re: foreign drivers should be shot!!!
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 6:17 pm
by GrindCulture
Sorry, but what's using the search function got to do with this thread?

Re: foreign drivers should be shot!!!
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 6:19 pm
by E30BeemerLad
When you wake in the morning with many aches & pains give me a shout
Happy to help you along with the claim in general as you will undoubtedly get served up with some poor offers for the car. As Brian has said, try to resist having to leave the car at an approved garage of the insurers, tell them it is staying on your driveway and that is where they can inspect it. There is no point getting an estimate/ costing up the repairs for a 18 year old BMW with sill damage etc as it is always going to be a write off. By keeping the car at home/ on private property you have a much better chance of keeping the salvage.
As a general rule, salvage values are usually about 10% of the vehicle's pre-accident value (on cars worht less than £3K) So if the car is valued at £1500, you'll probablty have £150 deducted from the write off settlement if you want to keep it.
Golden rule with any claim, keep your receipts for anything you are spending money on as a result of the accident, take some pics of the car damage for reference purposes.
Re: foreign drivers should be shot!!!
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 6:29 pm
by Jhonno
What difference does it make that he was foreign?
Couldn't you have drifted round the outside of him or something?
Re: foreign drivers should be shot!!!
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:12 pm
by RATechnology
Have to say as a foreigner in the UK i see some appaling driving in my travels... Most of which comes from UK registered cars... In fact on the way to autosport show over the weekend was with a mate in his Civic Type R, doing about 80mph on the M40 we were quite literally run off the road by an older english (looking) bloke in a fairly new Jag... Didn't even look as he changed lanes! Even after the gestures from myself in the passanger seat as we finally passed him did he realise or even notice what he'd done.
Just glad your ok. Keep the car away from authorised repairers, as suggested make them come to you or if you have someone you trust that owns a garage leave it with them for any inspections etc
Re: foreign drivers should be shot!!!
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:23 pm
by greentouring
Hope you get your car sorted mate; I know how gutting this sort of thing is, and what makes it worse is the insurance companies that have us over a barrel. They ask for stupid prices, then when it comes to paying out, try to wriggle out of it and offer stupidly low figures.
Thought I might add, there are a lot of terrible French drivers over here that drive 90mph even in foggy, rainy conditions. One rear ended my touring at a junction.....

Re: foreign drivers should be shot!!!
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:26 pm
by Morat
gudgeon wrote:Morat wrote:This is the difference of course. In the Fatherland, 80mph in the outside lane will get you killed.
And is that an example of what safe drivers they are?
Honestly, I don't mean to be hostile to other drivers but there are track days for that sort of thing.
It's an example to illustrate the difference between driving in the UK and Germany. In the UK people act as self appointed traffic cops by setting their own speed limit in the outside lane. On the Autobahns you need to stay awake and look in your rear view mirror constantly because the speed differential could be 120mph on top of your 80mph.
Re: foreign drivers should be shot!!!
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:27 pm
by gooner1
Feel for you m4xos. Having said that, a person,s nationality does,nt determine their driving ability.
You,re ok, that,s what counts
Re: foreign drivers should be shot!!!
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:14 pm
by m4xos
Bob_S wrote:to be fair I think a topic title of "foreign drivers should be shot" is not only threatening, down right disgraceful and above all a a very bold sweeping statement which is obviously complete and utter bollocks.
If people used the search function we wouldn't have so many stupid useless posts floating about which have been covered before. We live in a lazy world where it's easier for someone else to do the leg work for us.. funny how the foreigners can be arsed to move over find a job and make a living when we have so many people claiming more benefits than the government can offer.
told you once knob head BOB, stop writin on my posts, i couldnt give a flying fcuk what you say, as you have a chip on your shoulder for some reason, like before never met you, you have alot of hostility, or maybe / probably jealous of me!!i cant wait to meet you at a show tho!! get it in that little brain of urs, stop writin posts to me!!!
to those foreigners who can drive out there sorry to be harsh but i was utterly gutted and pissed off that day,for reasons everyone should understand! but as you know there are alot of idiots that havent even got licenses out there!!
THANKYOU TO EVERYONE WHO HAS WRITTEN UP POSITIVE POSTS WITH GOOD ADVICE!! WILL THINK TWICE BEFORE I DO THINGS!!
Re: foreign drivers should be shot!!!
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:15 pm
by fuzzy
..all though the fact it was a foreigner could have contributed to the accident if they are used to driving on the left and were looking the wrong way... its an easy mistake to make. more than once ive stopped at a roundabout or junction and pulled out the wrong way if there was no other traffic to keep me right both here and in europe.
Re: foreign drivers should be shot!!!
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:19 pm
by gooner1
Morat wrote:gudgeon wrote:Morat wrote:This is the difference of course. In the Fatherland, 80mph in the outside lane will get you killed.
And is that an example of what safe drivers they are?
Honestly, I don't mean to be hostile to other drivers but there are track days for that sort of thing.
It's an example to illustrate the difference between driving in the UK and Germany. In the UK people act as self appointed traffic cops by setting their own speed limit in the outside lane. On the Autobahns you need to stay awake and look in your rear view mirror constantly because the speed differential could be 120mph on top of your 80mph.
Would be interesting to compare the road fatality figures between
Germany and us. By us, i mean people living and driving in Britain

Re: foreign drivers should be shot!!!
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:21 pm
by fuzzy
Morat wrote:gudgeon wrote:Morat wrote:This is the difference of course. In the Fatherland, 80mph in the outside lane will get you killed.
And is that an example of what safe drivers they are?
Honestly, I don't mean to be hostile to other drivers but there are track days for that sort of thing.
It's an example to illustrate the difference between driving in the UK and Germany. In the UK people act as self appointed traffic cops by setting their own speed limit in the outside lane. On the Autobahns you need to stay awake and look in your rear view mirror constantly because the speed differential could be 120mph on top of your 80mph.
exactly, ive been sitting on the cars limit at 240kph ish (merc) and have had all sorts fly past me like i was doing uk speeds.
Re: foreign drivers should be shot!!!
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:33 pm
by gudgeon
fuzzy wrote:
exactly, ive been sitting on the cars limit at 240kph ish (merc) and have had all sorts fly past me like i was doing uk speeds.
You've had cars fly past you while you were doing 160mph!
I'll admit I've never driven in Germany but if what you say is even close to true I would get off the Autobahn pretty damned quick. Not even the most jumped up Jeremy Clarkson could claim that everything is safe on a public road at those speeds.
@m4xos:
Sorry to hear about the smash, questioning the nationality, gender, sexual orientation, parentage, genetic integrity, of the cause of the damage is all entirely legitimate and normal under the circumstances.
Re: foreign drivers should be shot!!!
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:38 pm
by Bob_S
m4xos wrote:Bob_S wrote:to be fair I think a topic title of "foreign drivers should be shot" is not only threatening, down right disgraceful and above all a a very bold sweeping statement which is obviously complete and utter bollocks.
If people used the search function we wouldn't have so many stupid useless posts floating about which have been covered before. We live in a lazy world where it's easier for someone else to do the leg work for us.. funny how the foreigners can be arsed to move over find a job and make a living when we have so many people claiming more benefits than the government can offer.
told you once knob head BOB, stop writin on my posts, i couldnt give a flying **** what you say, as you have a chip on your shoulder for some reason, like before never met you, you have alot of hostility, or maybe / probably jealous of me!!i cant wait to meet you at a show tho!! get it in that little brain of urs, stop writin posts to me!!!
to those foreigners who can drive out there sorry to be harsh but i was utterly gutted and pissed off that day,for reasons everyone should understand! but as you know there are alot of idiots that havent even got licenses out there!!
THANKYOU TO EVERYONE WHO HAS WRITTEN UP POSITIVE POSTS WITH GOOD ADVICE!! WILL THINK TWICE BEFORE I DO THINGS!!
ooh please tell me again...
I don't care what I say either I'll be honest, the only chip on my shoulder is the one I just put there out my packet of chips to see what it feels like.. mmmm warm!
I am very jealous of you, this is the reason. I long for the day I can own a thorough-bred 318is and be a drift king, your talent's are clearly wasted, have you thought of entering the D1 drift championship?
Little brain? I suppose that's better than being brainless?
Re: foreign drivers should be shot!!!
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:39 pm
by m4xos
@m4xos:
Sorry to hear about the smash, questioning the nationality, gender, sexual orientation, parentage, genetic integrity, of the cause of the damage is all entirely legitimate and normal under the circumstances.[/quote]
LOL, cheers, calmed down abit now, still got my 2nd owner 325is absolute minter to cuddle at night

Re: foreign drivers should be shot!!!
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:45 pm
by m4xos
Bob_S wrote:m4xos wrote:Bob_S wrote:to be fair I think a topic title of "foreign drivers should be shot" is not only threatening, down right disgraceful and above all a a very bold sweeping statement which is obviously complete and utter bollocks.
If people used the search function we wouldn't have so many stupid useless posts floating about which have been covered before. We live in a lazy world where it's easier for someone else to do the leg work for us.. funny how the foreigners can be arsed to move over find a job and make a living when we have so many people claiming more benefits than the government can offer.
told you once knob head BOB, stop writin on my posts, i couldnt give a flying **** what you say, as you have a chip on your shoulder for some reason, like before never met you, you have alot of hostility, or maybe / probably jealous of me!!i cant wait to meet you at a show tho!! get it in that little brain of urs, stop writin posts to me!!!
to those foreigners who can drive out there sorry to be harsh but i was utterly gutted and pissed off that day,for reasons everyone should understand! but as you know there are alot of idiots that havent even got licenses out there!!
THANKYOU TO EVERYONE WHO HAS WRITTEN UP POSITIVE POSTS WITH GOOD ADVICE!! WILL THINK TWICE BEFORE I DO THINGS!!
ooh please tell me again...
I don't care what I say either I'll be honest, the only chip on my shoulder is the one I just put there out my packet of chips to see what it feels like.. mmmm warm!
I am very jealous of you, this is the reason. I long for the day I can own a thorough-bred 318is and be a drift king, your talent's are clearly wasted, have you thought of entering the D1 drift championship?
Little brain? I suppose that's better than being brainless?
why isit you keep on about me drifting?? i wasnt drifting at the time and havent once mentioned drifting in the whole post!! whats your problem?? obviously seen my vids and defo are jealous caus you probly cant do it?? oowww i get it.... youve got a 24v lump, it aint special mate, i helped my mate put one in his e30 4 years ago now, old news now mate!! do us all a favour and stop STALKING my posts!!!
Re: foreign drivers should be shot!!!
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:46 pm
by maxfield
This thread will be locked if you carry on with the handbags...
Re: foreign drivers should be shot!!!
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:49 pm
by m4xos
reckon they should lock BOB from posting s**t on all my posts, everything i say or suggest on here its wrong accordin to BOB, he's just a w***er!!!
Re: foreign drivers should be shot!!!
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:54 pm
by gudgeon
Hey m4xos, I thought you were calming down. Don't Worry about Bob, we can all see what's going on and who's the tosser, I wish he hadn't added that bit about the chips though, I'm trying to eat m'dinner.
Re: foreign drivers should be shot!!!
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:57 pm
by m4xos
gudgeon wrote:Hey m4xos, I thought you were calming down. Don't Worry about Bob, we can all see what's going on and who's the tosser, I wish he hadn't added that bit about the chips though, I'm trying to eat m'dinner.
lol, cheers mate.