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Alpina question

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 12:45 am
by Felix79
On my C2 the steering is really slow and none sporty. Did Alpina ever change steering racks in the later models? My old cab had a z3 job and it sharpened up the steering to perfection. I am relictent to do any none Alpine jobs on my car as I think it is criminal to mess up such a rare beautiy.

Re: Alpina question

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 12:58 am
by Cloud
Does "20.5:1" mean anything?

There's a PDF on the C2 2.5 here:
http://www.alpinaaustralia.com.au/PDFs/GoCar.pdf

which has the grille badge at an angle, and a BBS bodykit, and recommends Pirelli P7, not P6000, as well as not having that plaque on the dashboard - so the accuracy is questionable.

Re: Alpina question

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 1:06 am
by Felix79
LOL I got this in my folders. It's genuine :)

Re: Alpina question

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 1:10 am
by Cloud
Felix79 wrote:LOL I got this in my folders. It's genuine :)
Presumably that's not a Sytner one, then? Would Sytner know whether the rack was changed? If it's not listed on the specs sheet, I'd say it were the same as standard. Chris Warburton might be able to say for sure though.

Re: Alpina question

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 1:19 am
by Felix79
It's a Sytner one due to the C label.

I guess Simon and Barry are on the sauce tonight .

Re: Alpina question

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 1:21 am
by Cloud
Off topic, you just cleared the 1000 post mark.

Re: Alpina question

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 1:24 am
by Felix79
Oh my I am a true spammer :(

Re: Alpina question

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 10:09 am
by Simon13
just a standard rack was used

Re: Alpina question

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 10:12 am
by Nay
I was gonna say, were they not just standard racks?

Re: Alpina question

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 10:14 am
by Nay
The measure bhp/L (bhp per Litre)! 8O

Can someone please explain how that works?

Re: Alpina question

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 10:49 am
by Theo
It's an incredibly complicated mathematical formula where you take the quoted figure for horsepower and divide it by the cubic capacity.

E.g 171/2.5=68.4

Re: Alpina question

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 1:40 pm
by bss325i
Felix79 wrote:It's a Sytner one due to the C label.

I guess Simon and Barry are on the sauce tonight .
The C1 2.3, C2.5 was sold in germany as well as the C2 2.7 but this changed to the B3 2.7 soon after.

Re: Alpina question

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 1:43 pm
by Nay
Theo325 wrote:It's an incredibly complicated mathematical formula where you take the quoted figure for horsepower and divide it by the cubic capacity.

E.g 171/2.5=68.4
Right i'm lost.... how :rofl:

Fair enough, just never heard of bhp/l before, so was intruiged!

Re: Alpina question

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 1:51 pm
by Jon_Bmw
Theo325 wrote:It's an incredibly complicated mathematical formula where you take the quoted figure for horsepower and divide it by the cubic capacity.

E.g 171/2.5=68.4
:rofl:

163/1.9 = 85.8 :D

Re: Alpina question

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 1:53 pm
by Cloud
NayC wrote:
Theo325 wrote:It's an incredibly complicated mathematical formula where you take the quoted figure for horsepower and divide it by the cubic capacity.

E.g 171/2.5=68.4
Right i'm lost.... how :rofl:

Fair enough, just never heard of bhp/l before, so was intruiged!
It's actually pretty simple. A very good measure of how good or efficient an engine is. I used it when I was writing for American car magazines, since it's often hard to put a 4.6l V8 into perspective against a 3.2l S6. It means that you can look at every different engine as though it were a 1litre, which makes comparison very easy. With it, you can do something like this:

Ariel Atom: 220bhp / 2.0l = 110bhp per litre
Ford Mustang: 300bhp / 4.6l = 65.2bhp per litre

so if the Ariel Atom had the same size engine as the Mustang
it'd have 506bhp, where Ford can only get 300 from it.

Re: Alpina question

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 4:25 pm
by Simon13
bss325i wrote:
Felix79 wrote:It's a Sytner one due to the C label.

I guess Simon and Barry are on the sauce tonight .
The C1 2.3, C2.5 was sold in germany as well as the C2 2.7 but this changed to the B3 2.7 soon after.
they changed to B3 when the facelift happened, only the chrome bumper LHD cars where C2's

Re: Alpina question

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 4:27 pm
by bss325i
Simon13 wrote:
bss325i wrote:
Felix79 wrote:It's a Sytner one due to the C label.

I guess Simon and Barry are on the sauce tonight .
The C1 2.3, C2.5 was sold in germany as well as the C2 2.7 but this changed to the B3 2.7 soon after.
they changed to B3 when the facelift happened, only the chrome bumper LHD cars where C2's
So about a year into 2.7 production then.

Re: Alpina question

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 5:07 pm
by Simon13
porduction started in 86 just after the 325i appeared, so nearly 2 years

Re: Alpina question

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 8:28 pm
by 336tdse
Cloud wrote:
NayC wrote:
Theo325 wrote:It's an incredibly complicated mathematical formula where you take the quoted figure for horsepower and divide it by the cubic capacity.

E.g 171/2.5=68.4
Right i'm lost.... how :rofl:

Fair enough, just never heard of bhp/l before, so was intruiged!
It's actually pretty simple. A very good measure of how good or efficient an engine is. I used it when I was writing for American car magazines, since it's often hard to put a 4.6l V8 into perspective against a 3.2l S6. It means that you can look at every different engine as though it were a 1litre, which makes comparison very easy. With it, you can do something like this:

Ariel Atom: 220bhp / 2.0l = 110bhp per litre
Ford Mustang: 300bhp / 4.6l = 65.2bhp per litre

so if the Ariel Atom had the same size engine as the Mustang
it'd have 506bhp, where Ford can only get 300 from it.
looking at his made me realise how much bhp/l my cosworth has. 472 bhp 2.0 l = 236 bhp per litre winkeye

Re: Alpina question

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 8:48 pm
by Simon13
it's turbo and cheating though

N/A lumps with over 100bhp is the real art!