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the only thing specific to e30 about this topic is that i have a six pot m20 2.5

just wanted to say that the only real mod ive done other than polishing my wheels is a sebring back box (so far) and the noise is just sublime it just sounds right. my dads e32 735 just sounds right too..... (ive got my eye on the engine)

my mums 4.8 x5 sounds good dont get me wrong. an S14 sounds fantastic......

but a BMW inline 6 is the Carlsberg of engine sounds.....

thats all i wanted to say

Pardon?

a, what, an m20? what age are you living in?

They do sound nice though

sound like a room full of granny's knitting

Bob_S wrote:sound like a room full of granny's knitting

ha ha, never heard that before, but ure not wrong, sometimes the sound, sounds wrong/off balance!

Newer BMW 6 pots sing, the older ones sound like proper mechanics I find both have their merits

E36 and e46 m3's on full chat sound amazing.

Bob_S wrote:sound like a room full of granny's knitting

Yet another LPG advantage, no clattering injectors here unless im low on gas

Bob_S wrote:sound like a room full of granny's knitting

your not wrong lol but when you give em some beans.... or just dont go near the front of the car

I think 4 pots sound good personally....


...lol!

I love the M20!
171bhp from a 2.5 twenty years ago,
Volvo's new S40 makes 168bhp from a 2.4
Kia's brand new 2.4 does the same.

Looks like car makers modern technology has finally caught up to the mighty M20.

m20 b25/b27/b28 ftw!! i love the sound of her when shes in 4th @ 2k revs.. meaty...

Bob_S wrote:sound like a room full of granny's knitting

M20 on full chat with a nice exhaust note still turns heads

m50 with schrick cams at full chat, it's orchestral not archeoligical agricultural noise pollution. I bought an m20b27 for the sound.. then pulled it out for 24v rightness!

Bob_S wrote:m50 with schrick cams at full chat, it's orchestral not archeoligical agricultural noise pollution. I bought an m20b27 for the sound.. then pulled it out for 24v rightness!

not all of us have the space to be able to do the converion
i have a single drive and a comunial carpark space that isnt level.

I need a bloody garage I need a 2.8

I've done swops at the side of the road before now!

M20s sound very nice.. IMO the 320s sound nicer and smoother than the 325s... untill you give the 2.5 the full beans then

Older engines sound soo nice. Newer beems are ok, but the old ones are fantastic...

Too bad they cant make the M20s anymore. Good sorting out in the factory to make them as good as they can be whilst standard would just be superb...if they still made them.

Bob_S wrote:I've done swops at the side of the road before now!

so have i but the 24v lump isnt just plug and play few mods are needed
and im now getting to old to be doing it in all weathers
i need a nice warm garage

CG_Maintenance wrote:

Bob_S wrote:I've done swops at the side of the road before now!

so have i but the 24v lump isnt just plug and play few mods are needed
and im now getting to old to be doing it in all weathers
i need a nice warm garage

of course it's plug and play!

Bob_S wrote:I've done swops at the side of the road before now!

That,s called dogging round here

gooner1 wrote:

Bob_S wrote:I've done swops at the side of the road before now!

That,s called dogging round here

called dealing up here?

Cloud wrote:I love the M20!
171bhp from a 2.5 twenty years ago,
Volvo's new S40 makes 168bhp from a 2.4
Kia's brand new 2.4 does the same.

Looks like car makers modern technology has finally caught up to the mighty M20.

Not good is it, especially as they probably have more cams and valves too.
But manufacturers are going to be more bothered about emissions these days, and retaining low end torque to better cope with the 17 tons or so these cars probably weigh. Especially manufacturers as exciting as Kia or Volvo.

Cloud wrote:I love the M20!
171bhp from a 2.5 twenty years ago,
Volvo's new S40 makes 168bhp from a 2.4
Kia's brand new 2.4 does the same.

Looks like car makers modern technology has finally caught up to the mighty M20.

no its becasue of all the regulations that came in from 92 onwasrds the cat convertoer beeing one of the biggist power sap, then after that its been eu regs on emmisions,

the same can be said for any 15+ year old cars like the e30's vw golfs etc there very quick
i mean see the old gti v the new gti the old one ethier won or was close cant remember..

i hate post 92 cars and defently hate new cars, there desigened to not have the bonnet lifted as if you do you get a lump of plastic covering every think!!

and the old/new cars post 92 feel slugish due to regs

zimmer-320i wrote:

Cloud wrote:I love the M20!
171bhp from a 2.5 twenty years ago,
Volvo's new S40 makes 168bhp from a 2.4
Kia's brand new 2.4 does the same.

Looks like car makers modern technology has finally caught up to the mighty M20.

no its becasue of all the regulations that came in from 92 onwasrds the cat convertoer beeing one of the biggist power sap, then after that its been eu regs on emmisions,

the same can be said for any 15+ year old cars like the e30's vw golfs etc there very quick
i mean see the old gti v the new gti the old one ethier won or was close cant remember..

i hate post 92 cars and defently hate new cars, there desigened to not have the bonnet lifted as if you do you get a lump of plastic covering every think!!

and the old/new cars post 92 feel slugish due to regs

The old 1.8 GTi hammered the new 2.0 GTi. I mean obliterated...

A well serviced m20 with a decent manifold & exhaust sounds awesome. Doesn't mean I'll be putting one back in my car, but they do sound blimmin good!

The m20 is the most prominent e30 engine! They are
They're also great looking engine in the bay when clean and tidy

Cloud wrote:I love the M20!
171bhp from a 2.5 twenty years ago,
Volvo's new S40 makes 168bhp from a 2.4
Kia's brand new 2.4 does the same.

Looks like car makers modern technology has finally caught up to the mighty M20.

I'd be interested to know how the fuel economies compare.

yer thought so

Elecblondie wrote:

Cloud wrote:I love the M20!
171bhp from a 2.5 twenty years ago,
Volvo's new S40 makes 168bhp from a 2.4
Kia's brand new 2.4 does the same.

Looks like car makers modern technology has finally caught up to the mighty M20.

I'd be interested to know how the fuel economies compare.

m20 is aroung 25 mpg
Volvo's new S40 is 37.2 mpg
and if you mean the kia rondo its 19/26 mpg

Elecblondie wrote:

Cloud wrote:I love the M20!
171bhp from a 2.5 twenty years ago,
Volvo's new S40 makes 168bhp from a 2.4
Kia's brand new 2.4 does the same.

Looks like car makers modern technology has finally caught up to the mighty M20.

I'd be interested to know how the fuel economies compare.

Volvo is 33
Kia is 36
BMW is 22

They... don't really compare.

??????

i just searced thyose mpg so not sure if ure guessing and b20 and b25 do 24/5 mpg 16 if ure heavy on the foot

My E30 stats came from here: http://e30world.com/specifications/BMW-E30-specs-table
The Kia stat is from a Kia press release, and the Volvo one is from a Volvo brochure.

You are of course remembering that US gallons are not the same as UK gallons, aren't you...

Ziggy wrote:You are of course remembering that US gallons are not the same as UK gallons, aren't you...

No!
My Volvo brochure is also US spec, since it came from Florida, so Matt's numbers are correct. Mine aren't.
Fuuucking yanks.