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how many cosworth e30's are still around.....?

Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 7:42 pm
by fuzzy
there was a few last year but ive not heard from any of the owners for a while apart from today. so how many are left.....?

1. fuzzy stage 3 cosworth touring.
2.
3.

Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 8:06 pm
by e30cossie
I sold my e30 cosworth project over 1 year ago and now buying it back tomorrow. It still needs some work doing on it.



1. fuzzy stage 3 cosworth touring.
2. e30cossie stage 3 cosworth saloon
3.

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Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 8:08 pm
by fuzzy
what one was this again? do you have pics? what are you paying to buy it back?

Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 8:20 pm
by e30cossie
The car was light blue.
Im buying it back for £3800 and still needs about £2000 to get it the way i want it. will try and get some pics soon.

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Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 9:06 pm
by appletree
Seam to recall a black one to, maybe mat black with black wheels. :D was a pic of it not long back in the gallery

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Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 9:17 pm
by e30topless
there's one here was this a zoner? http://www.pistonheads.com/SALES/743916.htm

Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 9:19 pm
by e30cossie
Thats my car. will be back tomorrow.

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Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 9:20 pm
by fuzzy
e30topless wrote:there's one here was this a zoner? http://www.pistonheads.com/SALES/743916.htm
strange spec mix with t4,yellows and a stage 1 l6 ecu? the t4 would manage more than 425bhp wouldnt it ?

Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 9:24 pm
by e30cossie
The car is only on yellows to run in as every part in the engine is brand new and needs running in.

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Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 9:30 pm
by e30topless
425bhp that will be fun 8)

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Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 9:32 pm
by fuzzy
a t4 is good for 500+bhp i believe :D

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Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 11:50 pm
by sati
i heard that cosworth e30s were 4wd drive also know as the XI model i think , is this true?

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Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 11:58 pm
by march109
sati wrote:i heard that cosworth e30s were 4wd drive also know as the XI model i think , is this true?
No such thing as a cossie e30, unless like the sickos above you took out the ample BMW engine and fitted a cossie engine.

The iX was a 4wd e30 but was BMW powered as were all e30's that came out of the factory. Even tuners suchas Alpina used mainly BMW parts to create specials.

I would love any turbo e30 even a cossie one though.

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Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 9:05 am
by fuzzy
sati wrote:i heard that cosworth e30s were 4wd drive also know as the XI model i think , is this true?
they are whatever the owner made them. there was no e30 cosworth factory produced and are built as home conversions. i believe the e30 4wd system wouldnt be upto the power levels im currently running on.
i have had a quote to use cosworth 4wd running gear in my touring to convert mine to 4wd . im looking at about the same as the original engine conversion price 8O

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Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 9:12 am
by MarkF
I saw a dark blue E30 cab housing a cossie lump at Santa Pod DWYB a while back. Probably 4-5+ months ago?

Have never seen that one on here though. I think there are films of it at Pod on Youtube...

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Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 2:17 pm
by papercutout
I know the one you mean Mark, I was there too ;)

Its a lovely car. Just been looking through old DWYB photo's, it was in may.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/ ... pod056.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/ ... pod059.jpg

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Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 6:00 pm
by MarkF
papercutout wrote:I know the one you mean Mark, I was there too ;)

Its a lovely car. Just been looking through old DWYB photo's, it was in may.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/ ... pod056.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/ ... pod059.jpg

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Thats the one mate! What car do you have? I have been the last 2 months and will be there on Nov 12 :D

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Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 6:14 pm
by sati
alright thanks , How Much Power Will The IX Running Gear Take? , not sure how many people knw the chop shop crew , but they took an old land rover and dumped in a Skyline engine and sum how modded the land rover running gear to fit , it was a rather pointless thing to do. but i was surprised that engine took the load! and powered the jeep, but think tuning the stock engine will have better and cheaper.

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Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 6:28 pm
by Pete-M
fuzzy wrote:a t4 is good for 500+bhp i believe :D
I had 528 bhp from a T3 on a Cosworth... T4 just makes it a lot less driveable and a shed load more 'peaky'.

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Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 6:30 pm
by GrindCulture
sati wrote:they took an old land rover and dumped in a Skyline engine
Sounds like an hideous abomination.

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Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 6:36 pm
by sati
it was sumthing not done before so they wanted to prove they can do anything, and they sure did.

wats the most the IX Gear can take and what engine did it come with?

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Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 6:47 pm
by papercutout
MarkF wrote:Thats the one mate! What car do you have? I have been the last 2 months and will be there on Nov 12 :D
Red E30, as seen here: (I should be at the pod on the 12th btw, marshalling)
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j76/2 ... une036.jpg

(trying not to clog up thread, soz fuzzy)

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Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 7:53 pm
by capri_rob
sati wrote:it was sumthing not done before so they wanted to prove they can do anything, and they sure did.

wats the most the IX Gear can take and what engine did it come with?
Sati the iX came as standard with a 325i lump - they were pretty rare so I doubt anyone has dropped a really powerful lump in one - you'd just have to try it - what have you got in mind ? winkeye

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Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 10:36 pm
by Jhonno
Not sure how many around, but I would guess most of them are now needing fixing :P

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Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 8:15 am
by march109
capri_rob wrote:
sati wrote:it was sumthing not done before so they wanted to prove they can do anything, and they sure did.

wats the most the IX Gear can take and what engine did it come with?
Sati the iX came as standard with a 325i lump - they were pretty rare so I doubt anyone has dropped a really powerful lump in one - you'd just have to try it - what have you got in mind ? winkeye
Good luck. I remember the M20 in the iX used a special sump with a drive shaft protruding through it for the 4wd system iirc.

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Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 8:55 am
by Morat
There are some iX on e30tech with turbo conversions. They seem to reckon the drivetrain is good, but poor maintenance can kill it.

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Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 9:25 am
by SPADGE
Pete-M wrote:
fuzzy wrote:a t4 is good for 500+bhp i believe :D
I had 528 bhp from a T3 on a Cosworth... T4 just makes it a lot less driveable and a shed load more 'peaky'.
Sorry Pete but that is absolute bollox :?

A T3 absolutely max'd out will give you circa 360bhp running just under 2 bar of boost, dark green 803's etc etc and will destroy itself very very quickly!

The larger T3/4 as used on the big turbo Escos with the .63 exhaust housing will just about scrape 400hp running light blue 400's or grey 403's and a proper set-up/map.

A T4 is a fairly large turbo which can supply ample amounts of boost but unless the head has had some serious work somewhere just above the 400 bhp figure is about it.

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 11:03 am
by cecotto_singh
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1. fuzzy stage 3 cosworth touring.
2. e30cossie stage 3 cosworth saloon
3.e30 m3 cosworth

still got mine.

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Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:50 pm
by fuzzy
SPADGE wrote:
Pete-M wrote:
fuzzy wrote:a t4 is good for 500+bhp i believe :D
I had 528 bhp from a T3 on a Cosworth... T4 just makes it a lot less driveable and a shed load more 'peaky'.
Sorry Pete but that is absolute bollox :?

A T3 absolutely max'd out will give you circa 360bhp running just under 2 bar of boost, dark green 803's etc etc and will destroy itself very very quickly!

The larger T3/4 as used on the big turbo Escos with the .63 exhaust housing will just about scrape 400hp running light blue 400's or grey 403's and a proper set-up/map.

A T4 is a fairly large turbo which can supply ample amounts of boost but unless the head has had some serious work somewhere just above the 400 bhp figure is about it.
i didnt even think 360 was attainable on a t3. i thought 330 was at the limit for that turbo. definately not 528bhp, not a chance, not ever.

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:51 pm
by fuzzy
cecotto_singh wrote:[


1. fuzzy stage 3 cosworth touring.
2. e30cossie stage 3 cosworth saloon
3.e30 m3 cosworth

still got mine.
hello mate, hows yours going these days? thats 3 of us so far. any more and we'll need something bigger than a bus shelter for the annual meet :D
what ever happened to the cosworth touring i heard you were building spadge?

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Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:52 pm
by SPADGE
fuzzy wrote:
SPADGE wrote:
Pete-M wrote: I had 528 bhp from a T3 on a Cosworth... T4 just makes it a lot less driveable and a shed load more 'peaky'.
Sorry Pete but that is absolute bollox :?

A T3 absolutely max'd out will give you circa 360bhp running just under 2 bar of boost, dark green 803's etc etc and will destroy itself very very quickly!

The larger T3/4 as used on the big turbo Escos with the .63 exhaust housing will just about scrape 400hp running light blue 400's or grey 403's and a proper set-up/map.

A T4 is a fairly large turbo which can supply ample amounts of boost but unless the head has had some serious work somewhere just above the 400 bhp figure is about it.
i didnt even think 360 was attainable on a t3. i thought 330 was at the limit for that turbo. definately not 528bhp, not a chance, not ever.
It is absolutely wringing its neck to achieve that mate and a set of 803's (dark greens) are maxed out at around that figure also.

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Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 6:24 pm
by Pete-M
fuzzy wrote:
SPADGE wrote:
Pete-M wrote: I had 528 bhp from a T3 on a Cosworth... T4 just makes it a lot less driveable and a shed load more 'peaky'.
Sorry Pete but that is absolute bollox :?

A T3 absolutely max'd out will give you circa 360bhp running just under 2 bar of boost, dark green 803's etc etc and will destroy itself very very quickly!

The larger T3/4 as used on the big turbo Escos with the .63 exhaust housing will just about scrape 400hp running light blue 400's or grey 403's and a proper set-up/map.

A T4 is a fairly large turbo which can supply ample amounts of boost but unless the head has had some serious work somewhere just above the 400 bhp figure is about it.
i didnt even think 360 was attainable on a t3. i thought 330 was at the limit for that turbo. definately not 528bhp, not a chance, not ever.
The car in question was originally built by BBR and produced 385 bhp as built by them, I later mangled the bottom end and had the engine rebuilt and upgraded by a friend who normally builds engines for offshore powerboat racing teams. The turbo was untouched during the rebuild but that car pulled 450+ hp on four different sets of rollers, and 528 bhp on the engine dyno of the chap who built it.

Severn Valley Motorsport said the same as you (as did Collins), but four different sets of rollers said otherwise, as did a verified 185 mph at Bruntingthorpe and an 11 sec 1/4 mile time.

It crucified a Collins built '500 bhp' RS500 at Santa Pod, something I suspect a 330 bhp one couldn't do.

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 6:36 pm
by cecotto_singh
fuzzy wrote:
cecotto_singh wrote:[


1. fuzzy stage 3 cosworth touring.
2. e30cossie stage 3 cosworth saloon
3.e30 m3 cosworth

still got mine.
hello mate, hows yours going these days? thats 3 of us so far. any more and we'll need something bigger than a bus shelter for the annual meet :D
what ever happened to the cosworth touring i heard you were building spadge?

mine was going well. changed the diff for the m3 item so lost some of the acceleration but was easier to get the power down.
blew the turbo on the way to santa pod for the dragstrip challenge tho so just conteplating whether to replace it for a bigger one. winkeye

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Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 6:40 pm
by fuzzy
Pete-M wrote:
fuzzy wrote:
SPADGE wrote: Sorry Pete but that is absolute bollox :?

A T3 absolutely max'd out will give you circa 360bhp running just under 2 bar of boost, dark green 803's etc etc and will destroy itself very very quickly!

The larger T3/4 as used on the big turbo Escos with the .63 exhaust housing will just about scrape 400hp running light blue 400's or grey 403's and a proper set-up/map.

A T4 is a fairly large turbo which can supply ample amounts of boost but unless the head has had some serious work somewhere just above the 400 bhp figure is about it.
i didnt even think 360 was attainable on a t3. i thought 330 was at the limit for that turbo. definately not 528bhp, not a chance, not ever.
The car in question was originally built by BBR and produced 385 bhp as built by them, I later mangled the bottom end and had the engine rebuilt and upgraded by a friend who normally builds engines for offshore powerboat racing teams. The turbo was untouched during the rebuild but that car pulled 450+ hp on four different sets of rollers, and 528 bhp on the engine dyno of the chap who built it.

Severn Valley Motorsport said the same as you (as did Collins), but four different sets of rollers said otherwise, as did a verified 185 mph at Bruntingthorpe and an 11 sec 1/4 mile time.

It crucified a Collins built '500 bhp' RS500 at Santa Pod, something I suspect a 330 bhp one couldn't do.
im not doubting what it did but it didnt do it on a t3 ,absolutely no chance was it a t3. thats physically beyond a t3's capabilities.evenm a t34 couldnt manage that .thats a t4's territory. ill post this up on passionford if you want and see what these tuners say to it. what was the cars reg? it will be well known in ford circles i expect.

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 6:42 pm
by fuzzy
cecotto_singh wrote:
fuzzy wrote:
cecotto_singh wrote:[


1. fuzzy stage 3 cosworth touring.
2. e30cossie stage 3 cosworth saloon
3.e30 m3 cosworth

still got mine.
hello mate, hows yours going these days? thats 3 of us so far. any more and we'll need something bigger than a bus shelter for the annual meet :D
what ever happened to the cosworth touring i heard you were building spadge?

mine was going well. changed the diff for the m3 item so lost some of the acceleration but was easier to get the power down.
blew the turbo on the way to santa pod for the dragstrip challenge tho so just conteplating whether to replace it for a bigger one. winkeye
what spec is your? what turbo is on it just now? bigger is always best when replacing things :D