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320is - please tell me about it.
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 8:18 pm
by tlee
I've only recently learned of the existence of this model. The ads refer to it as the Italian M3. However, is it just an E30 with a 2 litre M Power engine or is there more underneath the skin? Also, what is the power of the car? Thanks.
Re: 320is - please tell me about it.
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 8:20 pm
by Alex
mtech suspension, 2.0 s14 engine, and thats about it as far as i know
they were for italian and portugese markets to avoid high tax bands

Re: 320is - please tell me about it.
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 8:20 pm
by Alex
oh and iirc there around 190 bhp
Re: 320is - please tell me about it.
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 8:34 pm
by tlee
Thanks Alex. Apart from the engine, there's nothing special then.
Re: 320is - please tell me about it.
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 8:35 pm
by Alex
no nothing special apart from engine, some look like poverty spec four doors

Re: 320is - please tell me about it.
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 8:45 pm
by bmwsport
Another thing special these is the lack of rust they tend to have due to them being imported from nicer climates where they don't use salt on the roads either. From personal experience the only e30's i would buy these days are the imports as all the uk cars will have rust on them somewhere or other no matter how 'mint' they are supposed to be
Oh and they are a cool car as they are rather rare too
Re: 320is - please tell me about it.
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 8:53 pm
by tlee
I've asked about the 320is because I'm after a new road car (see my wanted thread). There are two up for sale at the moment that are both in the £6K area. I don't care for the 'classic rarity' aspect of the car. I'm after something that's clean and solid; usable on my very short commute and wicked on track. I'm thinking of buying something like Nick Stoner's 320 (clean and solid) and having an engine built for it. It would come in cheaper than the 320is and, hopefully, faster! Well, that's my thoughts but I'm open to suggestion.
Re: 320is - please tell me about it.
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 9:03 pm
by Alex
a 320i will be no where near as fast as a 320is, a 320i is only as fast as a 318i and there not very fast, get a 318is have enough poke and are good fun on a track or get a 325i

Re: 320is - please tell me about it.
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 9:13 pm
by tlee
It wouldn't stay as a 320 - read my post ;)
Re: 320is - please tell me about it.
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 9:15 pm
by GrindCulture
So you were planning on buying a 320iS and swapping bits about? Seems like a grose waste of time and money to be honest.
Re: 320is - please tell me about it.
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 9:17 pm
by Rosc0PColtrane
320is would fit your bill in standard guise.
Re: 320is - please tell me about it.
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 9:23 pm
by Alex
ah rite i get it now

Re: 320is - please tell me about it.
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 9:23 pm
by robbo86
I would love one, or a 18is but a 320is would be even more sweet for relative rarity value
Re: 320is - please tell me about it.
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 9:24 pm
by tlee
Grind - no I was thinking of buying a 320is and leaving as is. Or buying a cheap 320 and having an engine built for it.
Re: 320is - please tell me about it.
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 9:28 pm
by GrindCulture
Ah right, me misreading stuff again

Re: 320is - please tell me about it.
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 9:31 pm
by Alex
GrindCulture - you are as bad as me

Re: 320is - please tell me about it.
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 9:32 pm
by GrindCulture
Yup!
I want an s14 in my touring

Re: 320is - please tell me about it.
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 9:33 pm
by Alex
i want one in my IS

Re: 320is - please tell me about it.
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:04 pm
by fingerman
tlee wrote:I've only recently learned of the existence of this model. The ads refer to it as the Italian M3. However, is it just an E30 with a 2 litre M Power engine or is there more underneath the skin? Also, what is the power of the car? Thanks.
Hhhmm - it's not the dodgy ad that was discussed about a few weeks ago was it

- don't buy it !
Re: 320is - please tell me about it.
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:23 pm
by tlee
Re: 320is - please tell me about it.
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:24 pm
by Alex
just wondering, how would you insure a 320is over here, do you need specialist insurance companys

Re: 320is - please tell me about it.
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:39 pm
by fingerman
Nice looking cars

Re: 320is - please tell me about it.
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:43 pm
by GrindCulture
E30 325 this condition will fetch 10,000 pounds.
Eh?
These are such sleepers, the 4 door ones more so. Really do like them a lot.
Re: 320is - please tell me about it.
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:45 pm
by Felix79
is putting a S14 or S50 any harder than any other conversion?
Re: 320is - please tell me about it.
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:46 pm
by GrindCulture
Not sure if they're harder as such, just bloody expensive.
Re: 320is - please tell me about it.
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:01 pm
by Felix79
saying that my Alpina on paper seems to be more than a match for a early m3/320is
Re: 320is - please tell me about it.
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:03 pm
by Alex
Felix79 wrote:is putting a S14 or S50 any harder than any other conversion?
s14 into a m10 engined car will be pretty much drop straight in, since its basically a 16v 2.3 m10
Re: 320is - please tell me about it.
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:05 pm
by bss325i
Felix79 wrote:is putting a S14 or S50 any harder than any other conversion?
S14 is pretty much a bolt in job with only the exhaust manifold a problem on RHD cars.
S50 on the other hand is a lot more work to fit in an E30 engine bay!
Its worth it though.
Re: 320is - please tell me about it.
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:06 pm
by Alex
S14 is pretty much a bolt in job with only the exhaust manifold a problem on RHD cars.
never thought about that
Re: 320is - please tell me about it.
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:06 pm
by Alex
i wonder if you can buy new s14's from bmw
even if there 2k IMO they would be worth it
Re: 320is - please tell me about it.
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:07 pm
by tlee
I assume the 320is has an LSD?
Re: 320is - please tell me about it.
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:07 pm
by GrindCulture
I think you can, but brand new ones would be a hell of a lot more than £2k, seeing as that seems to be the price of 2nd hand S14s.
Re: 320is - please tell me about it.
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:08 pm
by bss325i
Andrew (Demlotcrew) has an S14 in his 318iS using a Hartge modified exhaust manifold, the one used in their RHD conversions of the E30 M3.
Re: 320is - please tell me about it.
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:08 pm
by bss325i
tlee wrote:I assume the 320is has an LSD?
Yes.
Re: 320is - please tell me about it.
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:08 pm
by GrindCulture
tlee wrote:I assume the 320is has an LSD?
I'd imagine so, I think their spec is very similar to 325i Sports over here.