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Front and Rear bumper mtec1 wont fit

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 10:13 am
by mariamu
hi every 1 at the zone i have been restoring my 88 cab for 6mouths now its had new paint job new lether interior but im stuck on the bumpers for some reason they wont go on their are mtec1 front and rear bumpers any help will be greatfull thanks

Re: Front and Rear bumper mtec1 wont fit

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 10:16 am
by zaust
Do you have any pic's of the car with out the bumpers on. Would be able to tell you where/ your going wrong.

Unlikely but is your's a plastic bumper model ???


Welcome to the zone btw.

okay

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 11:08 am
by mariamu
The car had crome bumpers when i took all the bumpers off

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Re: okay

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 11:49 am
by Ziggy
Moved to E30 chat & duplicate post removed :thumb:

Re: Front and Rear bumper mtec1 wont fit

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 2:44 pm
by oakey
mariamu wrote:hi every 1 at the zone i have been restoring my 88 cab for 6mouths now its had new paint job new lether interior but im stuck on the bumpers for some reason they wont go on their are mtec1 front and rear bumpers any help will be greatfull thanks
What do you mean by "they wont go on"? A bit more in depth info needed :D

Re: okay

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 2:44 pm
by stevotheevo
it is a pre-facelift model judging by the lights, so the m-tech1 kit should fit.

get a pic of the kit up mate.

Re: okay

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 4:06 pm
by Jhonno
stevotheevo wrote:it is a pre-facelift model judging by the lights, so the m-tech1 kit should fit.

get a pic of the kit up mate.
those are post facelift light actually (i think!)
Preface light have no central projector at all

Re: okay

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 4:13 pm
by stevotheevo
Jhonno wrote:
stevotheevo wrote:it is a pre-facelift model judging by the lights, so the m-tech1 kit should fit.

get a pic of the kit up mate.
those are post facelift light actually (i think!)
Preface light have no central projector at all
i thought the facelift lights were of the 'smiley' design, hence making this model pre-facelift.

Re: okay

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 4:15 pm
by Jhonno
the early facelifts came with the above lights.. smilies without the smile..

Re: okay

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 4:16 pm
by stevotheevo
just looked at oakey's sig, no projectors there.

ahh well wrong again :(

Re: okay

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 4:16 pm
by Jhonno
that is a prefacelift car though, you can tell by the front valance.. its 'short' and the oil cooler sits below it

Re: okay

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 4:17 pm
by Theo
That's definitely a prefacelift car.

To fit the tech 1 kit you have to take the black plastic bump strips off the metal bumpers.

Re: okay

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 4:19 pm
by stevotheevo
Jhonno wrote:that is a prefacelift car though, you can tell by the front valance.. its 'short' and the oil cooler sits below it
so its a prefacelift car, with facelift lights, in essence its a 'bitza'

Re: okay

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 4:21 pm
by Theo
I think those headlights were on all '88 cars

Re: okay

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 4:23 pm
by E30Mark
Theo325 wrote:I think those headlights were on all '88 cars
+1

Re: okay

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 4:24 pm
by oakey
Theo325 wrote:That's definitely a prefacelift car.

To fit the tech 1 kit you have to take the black plastic bump strips off the metal bumpers.
Aswell the tech1 kit plastic bump strips are slightly different to allow for the skirt to fit underneath.
It sounds like he's trying to fit the whole bumper though.

All prefacelift cabs I've ever seen have had the projector lamps.

Re: okay

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 4:25 pm
by Jon_Bmw
Yes Theo'na is right I believe. Early early cars didn't have projection lamps at all. 88 cars got the ones above. Late 88/89 cars got smileys.

Well maybe anyway. :)

Re: okay

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 4:28 pm
by Jhonno
Jon_Bmw wrote:Yes Theo'na is right I believe. Early early cars didn't have projection lamps at all. 88 cars got the ones above. Late 88/89 cars got smileys.

Well maybe anyway. :)
thats how I saw it..

Re: okay

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 4:32 pm
by stevotheevo
mine was registered 25/04/1988 and has smileys.

Re: okay

Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 10:05 pm
by baur320
mariamu wrote:The car had crome bumpers when i took all the bumpers

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My Baur's an 84 so obviously has chrome bumpers and has the same mounting irons is this pic, but does not have a steel valance fitted. Kit fits to the bumper, bumper attaches to the mounting irons + bolted through the end from each wing.

I wouldn't use the type of headlight as a clue to a cars age - could have been changed in the past by an earlier owner.

Re: okay

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 12:43 pm
by mariamu
well it looks like i have to cut out on each corner under the crome bumpers to make it fit as for the front doesn't fit propally and for the rear i have to make a bracket because the mounnts dont fit with tec1 all fun thanks guys@zone :cry:

Re: okay

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 6:35 pm
by Rosc0PColtrane
Jon_Bmw wrote:Yes Theo'na is right I believe. Early early cars didn't have projection lamps at all. 88 cars got the ones above. Late 88/89 cars got smileys.

Well maybe anyway. :)
So the headlights are the reason the tech 1 kit wont fit then eh??

YOu bunch of anorak gaylords. Stop willy waving about e30 almanac brains and help the guy!

Re: okay

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 6:45 pm
by gooner1
Ha ha, you tel them Nathan, and i thought I was the O/T king. :wink:

Re: okay

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 6:57 pm
by eko
mariamu wrote:well it looks like i have to cut out on each corner under the crome bumpers to make it fit as for the front doesn't fit propally and for the rear i have to make a bracket because the mounnts dont fit with tec1 all fun thanks guys@zone :cry:
Sounds like you have the one piece bumper trim(number 11 in the pic).
Pretty sure you need the two seperate pieces,number 19 and 20 to be able to fit the front skirt.
Wait for someone to confirm though before taking my word for it :wink:

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Re: okay

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 7:21 pm
by zaust
You are correct Eko. And then it sould go straight on. The front is spot on for fitment.
Now it is an 88 car with pre facelift bit's so now why is the rear not going on ??? Should also be the same fitment, as the kit more or less just hangs off the rear bumper. Or is the valence lower than the kit ??

Re: okay

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 8:51 pm
by baur320
eko wrote:Sounds like you have the one piece bumper trim(number 11 in the pic).
Pretty sure you need the two seperate pieces,number 19 and 20 to be able to fit the front skirt.
Part 11 is the M Tech bumper rubber, 19 & 20 are the standard rubbers. These shouldn't effect the bumper fitting.

mariamu, before you start cutting things up, see if the valences can be unbolted and then fit the bumper to your car with the kit attached. As I said in my first post, mine has an M Tech 1 kit and has the same bumper irons as yours and there is no steel valance behind the kit.

All I've done in the photo below is take the bumper/valence and wings off

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Not the best photo, but I'll post a front on one as soon as I can.

Mick

Re: okay

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 11:10 pm
by mariamu
Yeah the rear valance is lower than the kit was about to to take a humer to the valance what do you sugest Zaust??????????? thanks again mate. :idea:

Re: okay

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 11:14 pm
by mariamu
Thanks eko for you diagram cheeseeee gizza!!!!!!!!

Re: okay

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 11:16 pm
by mariamu
Baur320 thanks mate i will post the pictures soon, top gizza!!!!!!!!! :cool: