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does my touring have an lsd?

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 9:00 pm
by no2lurch
now before you all shout use the search function, i found this...

http://www.e30zone.net/modules.php?name ... hlight=lsd

but as i was on my own, i cant try to turn both wheels the same way, and i didnt have time to get the cover off, but i still woulod like to know, should/would/could my 1988 325i touring have an lsd? and i get 2 lines when wheel spinning on both gravel and tarmac and the outer wheel spins up when donuting on dirt...

Re: does my touring have an lsd?

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 9:03 pm
by fuzzy
my 91 325 mtech touring came with a 3.91 lsd so im sure yours could have. i believe it was an optional extra when new .....

Re: does my touring have an lsd?

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 9:17 pm
by no2lurch
was yours the torsen type?

what id tag should it have if its an lsd?

Re: does my touring have an lsd?

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 9:21 pm
by fuzzy
torsion? ive no idea. diff tag is something like S391

Re: does my touring have an lsd?

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 9:23 pm
by no2lurch
i'll have a look under the car tomorrow

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:23 pm
by Simon
With fuzzy's tag, the S prefix indicates that an LSD would be fitted.

As he says, it was an optional extra on a 325i touring.

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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:26 pm
by Rosc0PColtrane
Gravel spinning means feck all. The fact only one wheel spins up when 'diffin' would indicate an open diff. Do a proper 'roll back' burn out and count the black lines on tarmac.

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Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 7:17 am
by e30bmlover
:rofl: nath... true though.. thats the only easy way to find out, roll her back, rev her hard and dump the clutch.......... then count the black lines lol

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Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 6:17 pm
by fuzzy
whats the significance of rolling the car backwards first? is that necessary with an underpowered wheezy old bmw engine? :D

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Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 6:34 pm
by blyoss
Would a 325i sport have lsd as standard

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Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 7:04 pm
by oakey
blyoss wrote:Would a 325i sport have lsd as standard
Yes 8)

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Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 7:29 pm
by Rosc0PColtrane
fuzzy wrote:whats the significance of rolling the car backwards first? is that necessary with an underpowered wheezy old bmw engine? :D
No, it's just cooler. The car gets smoker and stays on the spot longer. Try it.

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Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 7:38 pm
by zaust
jack only one side of the rear up,if you can turn the raised wheel by hand then it is an open diff. If not then you have an lsd :)....


Remember to take the hand brake off lol..

Re: does my touring have an lsd?

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 7:43 pm
by snoops
no2lurch wrote:i cant try to turn both wheels the same way
you don't have to, spin one wheel with the car in the air and if the other spins the same way by itself then you have an LSD

Re: does my touring have an lsd?

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 7:49 pm
by zaust
Same same lol...

Re: does my touring have an lsd?

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 10:18 pm
by ric325i
snoops wrote:
no2lurch wrote:i cant try to turn both wheels the same way
you don't have to, spin one wheel with the car in the air and if the other spins the same way by itself then you have an LSD

not so true as i did this with a open diff and the wheels both span the same way 8O i though 'get in ive got a slipper' then i a mate held the wheel on one side and i span the other.

def open dif or a majorly distroyed slipper. i guess open.

Re: does my touring have an lsd?

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 10:24 pm
by Elecblondie
Was the car in gear? If it span the same way I'd say it was majorly destroyed, slipper or not.

Re: does my touring have an lsd?

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 10:40 pm
by oliwally
Elecblondie wrote:Was the car in gear? If it span the same way I'd say it was majorly destroyed, slipper or not.
An open diff can spin same way if the preload is high on the sun/planet gears.
Ford rangers are a good one for that,sticker on diff say only to use lsd oil and both wheels turn same way,but its an open diff for sure as only very high spec wildcat get them.

Re: does my touring have an lsd?

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 10:48 pm
by Elecblondie
I guess that makes sense but surely only if the engine's out of gear other wise it must be easier to turn the wheel over than the engine or am I missing something? (That's why I wanted to know if it was in gear)

Re: does my touring have an lsd?

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 11:33 pm
by oliwally
if its in gear and both wheels are off the ground the diff will turn regardless,if one wheel is on the ground and its in gear then it wont turn,basically your trying to turn the engine over by hand.
becareful though,i bout my mk2 escort and the people selling thought it had the diff swapped for an open type.
its got a quaife/torsen fitted,acts as an open diff when wheels are off ground.
bloody exspensive too :D

Re: does my touring have an lsd?

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 11:44 pm
by Elecblondie
Ok, I'm happy with that but sticking for the time being to a world of only clutch pack lsd's and normal open diffs; surely if the car is in gear with both wheels in the air then if you turn one wheel with an open diff then the other must rotate the other way. With the only way of both spinning the same way is if you rotate the input shaft to the diff or prop, whatever the preload surely you can't rotate the engine?

My expectation would be as long as the car is in gear then an open diff's output shafts should rotate in different directions.

Lucky you with the mk2, dead jealous :x.

Re: does my touring have an lsd?

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 10:22 am
by zimmerbimmer1
give me your chassis number and I'll check factory spec :D :D

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 10:32 am
by SHAKEELE30
zimmer can i give you my cars chassis number and could you give my spec please

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 11:03 am
by zimmerbimmer1
SHAKEELE30 wrote:zimmer can i give you my cars chassis number and could you give my spec please
no probs pm me your chassis

:D

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 11:14 am
by SHAKEELE30
great, you should have a pm from me then....


thanks

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 11:42 am
by zimmerbimmer1
SHAKEELE30 wrote:great, you should have a pm from me then....


thanks
pm replied

:D

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 11:55 am
by SHAKEELE30
thanks zimmer!!!

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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 8:45 pm
by no2lurch
zimmer... you got pm from me too.