The overall better car BMW E30 M3 OR VAUXHALL ASTRA VXR 2007

[sleepenvy]

as much as I love the e30 M3 a VXr would kill it on track on braking alone

20 years of brake developement is massive and the e30 brakes were pretty crap out of the box - IIRC they are M535i components

as a daily again the VXR would be a better proposition - cheaper to run and possibly more reliable too (although I never had any breakdown or start problems with mine)

as a w/e toy M3 every time

[csl]

[quote="hartgefan" would have left it for dead .thats 20 years development for you.

true its much better to compare cars of a similar era and pedigree.......
how bout this.
audi coup 2.2 20v quattro vs e30 m3

lol for those with their bm goggles on ill include a pic





for me id have to say the audi, but ive never driven an e30 m3.......
[/quote]




Audi quattro UR will win on sound alone!

[sleepenvy]

have driven both - urQuattro every time, agree on the sound and if you let KimCollins play with it you'll get 4 ft flames coming out of the back of it

awesome cars but they get put in the shade by an Integrale Evo...

[Andyboy]

YO Rosc0PColtrane FOR REAL dude u just need to relax your nerves and not let something i write get to you in any offensive way i mean we aint in no room where we sit/ stand face to face, you realy got to understand that this is the internet and we cant really see eachother in real life so dont feel that you have to teach english or spot people out when you feel u dont understand them.


quite frankly i would like to say in future if you feel you dont understand, a PM to that person wont hurt and well it is the more sensible way to go about it.

but in the mean time do take care and RELAX you'r ASs

Jazz

I'm sorry, could we have that in English please? It's not our fault you feel like you must speak like da homies in da Bronx bruv. The rest of us find plain English quite acceptable. Use of the capital letters also indicates a basic education but you might not have one so I'm sorry if you didn't go to school.

Thanks!

[Rosc0PColtrane]

Rosc0PColtrane,

I feel that your comments were rather pointless and you are just nit picking, this is a casual forum were members can talk to one another about any and every car related topic. Rather sad i think that we have members that have time only to criticise others...are you sure you wouldnt prefer to go to another forum, like reader digest.com

With regards to your first comment. "One thing the IS cannot do, is teach its' owners to use proper English", you are not only offending the writter but me, i'm not on this site to take part in childish and petty behaviour...grow up mate
You then went further when you said, i quote, "just makes you look like a burberry clad half wit." why be offensive? in the future a polite PM will suffice, u know casually asking not to abreviate.
i think you should jus calm down mate, coz for real yor starting to P me off


P.S calm yourself........i hear green tea helps a treat

When you have been on this forum for longer than 5 minutes, you may understand the joke I made with the IS comment. It has been a running joke for years on here that IS owners sometimes exaggerate the ability of their car. It's very much tongue in cheek.

Text speak is not welcome here, while perfect and grammar is not expected, at least some sort of attempt is expected.

As far as offending you, I apologise for you being so easily upset. Perhaps you should be less sensitive. I fail to see how such a comment can offend you?

The burberry comment was a general comment about text speak, not a personal dig at the poster of said text speak. Any such personal comment would have resulted in me getitng slapped wrists from the mods and perhaps some editing of my post. As neither has happened, I know I have done nothing wrong.

Once again I ask you to be less sensitive. Have a look around here, it's a great place to learn all about these cars. However, casting vast assertions about acceptable comments and getting your knickers in a twist after being here for 5 minutes is somewhat comical. While I brew up the green tea, shall I pour you a cup?

[Rosc0PColtrane]

YO Rosc0PColtrane FOR REAL dude u just need to relax your nerves and not let something i write get to you in any offensive way i mean we aint in no room where we sit/ stand face to face, you realy got to understand that this is the internet and we cant really see eachother in real life so dont feel that you have to teach english or spot people out when you feel u dont understand them.


quite frankly i would like to say in future if you feel you dont understand, a PM to that person wont hurt and well it is the more sensible way to go about it.

but in the mean time do take care and RELAX you'r ASs

Jazz

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