Whats the difference between a 325i and a 325i SPORT??

[suchy]

Personally the sport Vs standard 325i is getting a bit boring. If you own one well done you have some kudos points!! Lol wtf ever! I personally bought mine merely because it ticked the boxes for my needs couldnt give a toss about kudos. The cars I have owned are because I want them not how I look to someone else.

Resale value I couldnt give a sh*t as the chances are I will never sell it, and im unlikey to see anywhere near the amount of money I have put into it over the last 6/7 years. Like its been said there a 325i with a few bolt on bits, they arent that special!

Exactly!!

[penton08]

ive looked at replicas which have had sport on the log book! check with the bmw dealers to be sure! but a solid replica at the right price is as good imo. as most proper sports have been abused, like mine!!! lol.

[Speedtouch]

What's the difference? Usually lots of hidden rust behind the Tech 2 kits on Sports, so in theory lighter weight

[mrLEE30]

Personally the sport Vs standard 325i is getting a bit boring. If you own one well done you have some kudos points!! Lol wtf ever! I personally bought mine merely because it ticked the boxes for my needs couldnt give a toss about kudos. The cars I have owned are because I want them not how I look to someone else.

Resale value I couldnt give a sh*t as the chances are I will never sell it, and im unlikey to see anywhere near the amount of money I have put into it over the last 6/7 years. Like its been said there a 325i with a few bolt on bits, they arent that special!

and seconded, buy the car you like if its a sport then good for you, if its not dont worry!!

and jamie, did you pick you user name cause its better then jamie325i

mrlee

[jamie325isport]

Personally the sport Vs standard 325i is getting a bit boring. If you own one well done you have some kudos points!! Lol wtf ever! I personally bought mine merely because it ticked the boxes for my needs couldnt give a toss about kudos. The cars I have owned are because I want them not how I look to someone else.

Resale value I couldnt give a sh*t as the chances are I will never sell it, and im unlikey to see anywhere near the amount of money I have put into it over the last 6/7 years. Like its been said there a 325i with a few bolt on bits, they arent that special!

and seconded, buy the car you like if its a sport then good for you, if its not dont worry!!

and jamie, did you pick you user name cause its better then jamie325i

mrlee

Lol, no mine is a real sport it says so on the log book!!! ,



which I had to take to my local dealer after a muppet hit my car (was getting quote for repair) the guy working there wouldnt quote it until he checked the number, thought it was fake because it was white, rare so he thought.

[bss325i]

was the black headlining an option on a regular 325i ?

you could spec the car with whatever was available to be specced with, you could have it pink and green if you wanted to pay enough money.

Yes i agree with people above in saying its not worth the bother to search around for the bits if you are that way inclined, some people enjoy this. But one thing stands firm, the 325sport and 325 are no different with the exception of certain add on bits (or relacement bits such as box/LSD/sport suspension). BMW UK only sodl them in certain colours (probably cause they were to most common and easiest to sell) so mainly black, sterling and dolphin (i am sure there are a few others) but if you wanted a Malchite green 325 and you wanted it to be a sport then you walked into the dealer and ticked all the boxes (including headlining) and the dealer deliveded a 325 with the full sport pack, it would not have been registered as ''sport'' but it would have the same bits.

my ''sport'' has a factory two tone kit, it is a Japan ''sport'' and it has all the UK sport bits plus AC/sunroof but it is the same as any other 325 bar the gearbox and diff - so all we are saying is dont get sucked into people claiming the sport is a better car, its the same car with bits added on.

mrlee

I've never seen back headlining as an option in any UK brochure!

[mrLEE30]

Nor I but if it was available you would have been able to ask for it, afterall BMW did not produce it soley for BMWUK for their ''sport'' models.

mine has it an this car was made in Japan

[bss325i]

Nor I but if it was available you would have been able to ask for it, afterall BMW did not produce it soley for BMWUK for their ''sport'' models.

mine has it an this car was made in Japan

Of course they didn't produce it solely for BMW UK for their "sport" models!

They used it in the M3 and later on in the 318iS and 2dr 320iS.

I doubt very much that you would have been able to order it on other models new.

BMW were not quite a flexible as they are now. Remember there was no BMW Individual department untill the early 90's.

Late E30 M3 Convertibles were rumoured to be the fist cars equiped/speced by that department before Individual became an offical department.

[gooner1]

Can anyone explain, why the sport was only available in the UK.
Does.nt make sense why an obvious bestseller was only available here.

[robbo86]

OT I know, but Bahrain rugby club? The ground is hard enough over here in summer, do you have any skin left??

[12345kevin]

Can anyone explain, why the sport was only available in the UK.
Does.nt make sense why an obvious bestseller was only available here.

Because BMW (Germany) never made a "Sport" It was a marketing excersise by BMW(UK) to tick all the options & give it the title "Sport". The Yuppies with more money than sense then queued up to buy it Thinking they were getting a superior car !

[87mtech27]

all the good sports are becoming rare so it would be better to buy a 325i save money and time and buy add all the sports options onto them, this way you would be able to create a sport of personal preferance.

[mikekean]

Can anyone explain, why the sport was only available in the UK.
Does.nt make sense why an obvious bestseller was only available here.

Because BMW (Germany) never made a "Sport" It was a marketing excersise by BMW(UK) to tick all the options & give it the title "Sport". The Yuppies with more money than sense then queued up to buy it Thinking they were getting a superior car !

Surely they introduced the sport as we where never lucky enough to receive the M3 in the UK, as BMW never made any RHD models. The sport may not be a "superior" car as you put it. But its certainly a better car than the normal 325i, The close ratio 1st 2nd & 3rd gears coupled with the lower ratio diff makes quite noticeable difference in acceleration. And makes much more use of the engines power as its on cam.

All these small changes on the sport models overall make a big difference IMO. Ok it will never be an M3 but it is what it is, A "sport" where as th M3 was more like a race car for the road. Id never swap my sport for a normal 325i no matter how mint it was.

[Speedtouch]

I personally preferred the driving experience of my 1988 325iSE which had high compression engine and all electrics including sunroof over my 1989 Sport with the low compression engine and manual sunroof.

I found the Sport's LSD gave rather odd handling characteristics in the wet, with several hairy moments in the year I owned it before ultimately throwing me off the road into a crash barrier on hitting some drainage water!

[oakey]

BMW still sell "sport models" to this day do they not?
Most people when they buy cars new do not intend on "modding" it so if they wanted a more sporty version of the 325i they would buy the sport, obviously! They were not getting ripped off, nor did they have more money than sense as to spec a 325i with all the sport options individually would cost more

It is a superior car to standard 325i if you want a 'spirited' drive.

[ShakeyC]

Really i thought the term '325i sport' was purely an zoner clique type thing because everything is 'rare' or 'mint' and everything has to have a badge and premium label?

Learn something new everyday

[bss325i]

Can anyone explain, why the sport was only available in the UK.
Does.nt make sense why an obvious bestseller was only available here.

Because BMW (Germany) never made a "Sport" It was a marketing excersise by BMW(UK) to tick all the options & give it the title "Sport". The Yuppies with more money than sense then queued up to buy it Thinking they were getting a superior car !

Surely they introduced the sport as we where never lucky enough to receive the M3 in the UK, as BMW never made any RHD models. The sport may not be a "superior" car as you put it. But its certainly a better car than the normal 325i, The close ratio 1st 2nd & 3rd gears coupled with the lower ratio diff makes quite noticeable difference in acceleration. And makes much more use of the engines power as its on cam.

All these small changes on the sport models overall make a big difference IMO. Ok it will never be an M3 but it is what it is, A "sport" where as th M3 was more like a race car for the road. Id never swap my sport for a normal 325i no matter how mint it was.

M3's were available new here from uk dealers.

They were most likely "created" the sport for the uk market because most people didnt like LHD.

There are plenty of tales from people who used to work within the dealer network back when these cars were being sold new, of rich customers returning their M3's after 6 months to a year to trade it against a speced up sport as they didn't get on with the M3.

[bss325i]

all the good sports are becoming rare so it would be better to buy a 325i save money and time and buy add all the sports options onto them, this way you would be able to create a sport of personal preferance.

By the time you have trawled the country collecting parts to make a sport rep, it would end up costing similar money for a reasonable sport.

Plus a sport alike will never sell for what a genuine one will!

[bss325i]

Its actually really begining to do my head in!

All these people who keep whinging about "sport values" and "not being anything special".

It seems to be the people who harp on about this so much are the ones who havent got one or cant afford one!

Dont think your relentless diatribe will bring prices tumbling!

HOW MANY F*CKING TIMES! ITS A MORE DESIRABLE MODEL WHICH HAS A VALUE OVER NORMAL 325I's!

DEAL WITH IT FOR F*CKS SAKE!

[Jon_Bmw]

Barry. Careful sir. Your blood pressure is getting dangerously high.

Please no one mention they have a good 4 door sport for sale in Brum, we'll have the first zone suicide!

[bss325i]

Barry. Careful sir. Your blood pressure is getting dangerously high.

Please no one mention they have a good 4 door sport for sale in Brum, we'll have the first zone suicide!

Jon it just gets on my wick all these chumps talking shit!

[mikekean]

Because BMW (Germany) never made a "Sport" It was a marketing excersise by BMW(UK) to tick all the options & give it the title "Sport". The Yuppies with more money than sense then queued up to buy it Thinking they were getting a superior car !

Surely they introduced the sport as we where never lucky enough to receive the M3 in the UK, as BMW never made any RHD models. The sport may not be a "superior" car as you put it. But its certainly a better car than the normal 325i, The close ratio 1st 2nd & 3rd gears coupled with the lower ratio diff makes quite noticeable difference in acceleration. And makes much more use of the engines power as its on cam.

All these small changes on the sport models overall make a big difference IMO. Ok it will never be an M3 but it is what it is, A "sport" where as th M3 was more like a race car for the road. Id never swap my sport for a normal 325i no matter how mint it was.

M3's were available new here from uk dealers.

They were most likely "created" the sport for the uk market because most people didnt like LHD.

There are plenty of tales from people who used to work within the dealer network back when these cars were being sold new, of rich customers returning their M3's after 6 months to a year to trade it against a speced up sport as they didn't get on with the M3.

Yes i know you could buy them brandnew from the dealers, cause my mates mum had one brandnew. But it was never a UK model as they where all LHD. Hence the sport being created if you get what i mean

[bss325i]

Surely they introduced the sport as we where never lucky enough to receive the M3 in the UK, as BMW never made any RHD models. The sport may not be a "superior" car as you put it. But its certainly a better car than the normal 325i, The close ratio 1st 2nd & 3rd gears coupled with the lower ratio diff makes quite noticeable difference in acceleration. And makes much more use of the engines power as its on cam.

All these small changes on the sport models overall make a big difference IMO. Ok it will never be an M3 but it is what it is, A "sport" where as th M3 was more like a race car for the road. Id never swap my sport for a normal 325i no matter how mint it was.

M3's were available new here from uk dealers.

They were most likely "created" the sport for the uk market because most people didnt like LHD.

There are plenty of tales from people who used to work within the dealer network back when these cars were being sold new, of rich customers returning their M3's after 6 months to a year to trade it against a speced up sport as they didn't get on with the M3.

Yes i know you could buy them brandnew from the dealers, cause my mates mum had one brandnew. But it was never a UK model as they where all LHD. Hence the sport being created if you get what i mean

Just because the M3 was LHD only, doesn't mean it wasn't a UK model.

They were sold through UK dealers and there was UK brocures for them.

In fact there was a UK ONLY M3 in the form of the Roberto Ravaglia!

What distinguishes an E30 M3 Ravaglia?
Instead of the E30 M3 Johnny Cecotto edition, the U.K. received only the E30 M3 Roberto Ravaglia edition, which was essentially an identical car except for the signature of another BMW factory race driver on the numbered plaque. Only 25 were built.

[SUMPCRACKER]

I havent got a sport, but think they are worth the money and more special/desirable than a plain 325i.

It is always the sport versions of any make/model which demand higher price.

mk2 astra 2.0 CD vs Mk2 astra 2.0 GTE - same mechanics- three times the value.
Or a Xr31 vs a 1.6i ghia.

[csl]

Because BMW (Germany) never made a "Sport" It was a marketing excersise by BMW(UK) to tick all the options & give it the title "Sport". The Yuppies with more money than sense then queued up to buy it Thinking they were getting a superior car !

Just to be 100% accurate, the "Sport" was indeed a UK only model,however, the same car was also sold in Germany,but marketed as "M paket".The rest of Europe could also have one too(M package).......the main difference was they were not fitted as standard with LSD, but i gather the buyers of these cars usually ordered one anyway.

[csl]

Yes i know you could buy them brandnew from the dealers, cause my mates mum had one brandnew. But it was never a UK model as they where all LHD. Hence the sport being created if you get what i mean

All the original UK supplied M3 that i came across always had English script on the check control etc and were considered English cars.
I understand that some people will see a LHD car and beg to differ thou!

[Bavarian_Autotech]

EVERYONE is to quick to jump one the "sports are nothing special" band wagon!

They are more desireable than a normal 325i so there for will ALWAYS comand a premium.

Deal with it for f*cks sake!

because they arent special.
yeah sure your right they are more desirable, but thats down to public perception that they have different mechanicals.

you gotta love badge engineering

Its actually really begining to do my head in!

All these people who keep whinging about "sport values" and "not being anything special".

It seems to be the people who harp on about this so much are the ones who havent got one or cant afford one!

Dont think your relentless diatribe will bring prices tumbling!

HOW MANY F*CKING TIMES! ITS A MORE DESIRABLE MODEL WHICH HAS A VALUE OVER NORMAL 325I's!

DEAL WITH IT FOR F*CKS SAKE!

yes but that doesnt make it any more special, it just proves the great unwashed are well frankly a bit stupid.

Jon it just gets on my wick all these chumps talking shit!

or maybe its you who is talking shit ?


if one person tells you something you dont agree with then its just their opinion
if 2 or 3 tell you the same thing then maybe its time to have another look
but if a dozen or more (aka "all these chumps") tell you the same thing then maybe its time to accept your wrong

[suchy]

They are more desirable and will fetch a higher price accordingly.
That makes them a little bit more special than a 325i.
A 325i is quite a special car also so don't all throw your toys out of the pram!!
For f**ks sake any E30 is pretty special to us otherwise we wouldn't be defending an out-dated heavy Germanic car would we- just accept they are a little bit better.... Jeeeesus

[csl]

A Sport is special IMO. It is not special like an E30 M3 etc is but still special

[beemerbird]

Having looked at the E30 register on the site, I would say that the Sports are common as muck. Lots of sport owners on here, and only a handful of us elitist 325i connossieurs

[hongkongfuey]

i thought i'd find you on here suchy, a sport is an e30 with bolt on snobbery simple.

one point i'd like to make, if people who bang on about sports are so happy with it being a sport why then do they change bits , ie. wheels, exhausts, engine displacements, engines etc. would that not take the fact of this whole " premium " and " desirable " thrown out the window because it's just another e30 with bits on

[hongkongfuey]

Having looked at the E30 register on the site, I would say that the Sports are common as muck. Lots of sport owners on here, and only a handful of us elitist 325i connossieurs

i would second that

[djk]

Can I wade in at this point?

A Sport is worth a considerable premium over a 325i mainly due to the desirable specification. LSD, 15" BBS, sports interior, tech II kit, OBC, m-tech suspenders - how many non-sports can you find that had ALL these options ticked when new? The close ratio gearbox is probably nice to have, ditto the black headlining, but I'm not sure they are life and death for anybody investing in an e30. Admittedly some of the premium over a cooking 325 is due to the 'Sport mystique' (or 'scene tax'), but it's mainly due to the package of options they come with. To make a non Sport 'Sport spec' would cost almost as much as buying a sport in the first place, but without significantly increasing the residual value as the car would no longer be original.

Personally, I wouldn't want a Sport as I prefer my e30s unadorned with bodykits, but I would pay a considerable premium for a good e30 to my ideal spec -manual, A/C, Leather Sport interior, OBC etc - but I would want it to be original. I don't think this is really any different to someone paying more for the Sport specification - they want the options it has, and they want a nice, unmolested, original car.

I think what gets people's backs up about 325i Sports is the view of a minority that a shagged one with a ropey history is somehow better, and more valuable, than a mint standard car.

[DmcL]

the difference is all sports came from the factory with 17 inch alpinas replica's... lol

i know they are nice wheels and all but f-in hell people do something different..

u would nearly think they did come from the factory like that considering how many numptys fit them to a sport.

[beemerbird]

So the answer to the OP COULD be that the difference between a sport and non - sport is headlining colour and gearing ratio.

Not a lot in it, really.