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Tue Jan 15, 2008 2:21 pm

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i'm just going by your spelling and grammer agreen
Oooh the irony! :D
ok , grammar lol

as for the capital "I" well, you can let me off that :wink:
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Tue Jan 15, 2008 2:40 pm

e30m3s50b32 wrote:
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i'm just going by your spelling and grammer agreen
Oooh the irony! :D
ok , grammar lol

as for the capital "I" well, you can let me off that :wink:
Not when you fail to capitalise letters at the beginning of all of your sentences....

As an aside (sort of), did anyone watch the "Motorway Cops Special" that was on BBC 1 last night?

They pulled a guy who had allegedly failed to pay for petrol on the motorway and his number plate didn't match. The officers who stopped him gave him a real hard time, very patronising because he was a mere 18 years old with a bit of an attitude.

He knew that the number plates were incorrect, it was the fault of a bodyshop or something and he had been issued with a 14 day rectification notice some 10 days earlier. The copper wrote him a fixed penalty ticket for it.

I did think he had a point when he said that if he had 14 days to rectify the number plates, how come he was in the wrong now?

I was pulled in Cheltenham once having just finished a dj gig. The officer claimed he had seen me getting in the car and I had 'hung around' for a little too long (I was changing a cd before setting off) so wanted to "check I wasn't drink driving".

:roll:

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Tue Jan 15, 2008 2:48 pm

e30m3s50b32 wrote: as for the capital "I" well, you can let me off that :wink:
Why? "I" as a personal pronoun is always written with a capital letter, irrespective of where it appears in a sentence.

You'll also find sentences start with capital letters and end with full stops too. It looks silly if you pull others up for grammar etc. if you go on to exhibit appalling grammar yourself.

I agree with you 'agreen' does have appalling grammar and spelling, but so does 90% of this forum. Most of what he's writing is (in my opinion) utter tripe, but it's his opinion and he's allowed to express it on a public forum.

Why not do as I do and filter out and ignore most of what's written on here. The majority is the ravings of illiterate cretins with no real world experience of the subjects they're happily professing to be experts in. That way you'll save your blood pressure rising.
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Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:07 pm

KrazyPaul, I saw that and the kid did have a point, but his attitude stunk.

Pure little rich boy c**t whose daddy brought a Type R for him

There is a right way and a wrong way to deal with police, he chose the wrong way. Mind you he had been wrenched out of his 'own' car so I have a little bit of sympathy. Not much for the arrogant cock.

Agreen you haven't been driving any Civics recently have you?
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Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:09 pm

edit after seeing the above post by ste.....

i understand what you are saying and i do filter out 90% of what's said

kp, 90% of people dont bother starting any sentence on here with a capital when typing, so i think thats it is a little harsh to make big issue of it, but again point taken

however please have a look at some of the posts by agreen, they confuse me :D

makes me want to be Samuel L Jackson in Pulp Fiction and shout out
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i've given my input to this topic and i stand by my original comments and going to leave it now, but i can accecpt that the police do over react at times but it's normaly on provocation or through being incorrectly informed about a given situation, but thats an other story on its own. to simply give the police "attitude" when you are stopped will only ever give them more reason to ticket you

i've not got the time to trade blows with anyone about anything else spoken about on this topic

good luck to you all and keep your e30's safe
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Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:16 pm

e30m3s50b32 wrote:kp, 90% of people dont bother starting any sentance on here with a capital when typing, so i think thats it is a little harsh to make big issue of it, but again point taken
Just yanking yer chain! :D

Jon_BMW. I hear you! His attitude was all wrong but it did show that the officers aren't entirely unbiased when it comes to enforcing the rules. Whilst the adolescent acted in a way that you might expect (all cocksure and full of balls), I'd expect the officers to not get wound up by that and remain unfazed. I think the officer who lost his cool was shown up as such.

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Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:19 pm

kp, no worries

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krazypaul wrote:As an aside (sort of), did anyone watch the "Motorway Cops Special" that was on BBC 1 last night?

They pulled a guy who had allegedly failed to pay for petrol on the motorway and his number plate didn't match. The officers who stopped him gave him a real hard time, very patronising because he was a mere 18 years old with a bit of an attitude.

He knew that the number plates were incorrect, it was the fault of a bodyshop or something and he had been issued with a 14 day rectification notice some 10 days earlier. The copper wrote him a fixed penalty ticket for it.

I did think he had a point when he said that if he had 14 days to rectify the number plates, how come he was in the wrong now?

I was pulled in Cheltenham once having just finished a dj gig. The officer claimed he had seen me getting in the car and I had 'hung around' for a little too long (I was changing a cd before setting off) so wanted to "check I wasn't drink driving".

:roll:

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Yes, I watched that. Typically self-righteous plod, most of them didn't even give the members of public any say-so whatsoever before leaping in with the heavy-handed "I'll arrest you for public disorder" line for the slightest perceived bit of non-compliance, then one admittedly older and hopefully wiser one said they're not all automatons and acknowledged that the public should be listened to. Most on that programme came across as the 'I'm an authority wearing a day-glo jacket and therefore always right, how dare you argue with me!' brigade. :(

Though I sometimes wonder if they act that way knowing that the camera's rolling so it makes them even more determined to 'win' any argument/confrontation and come across as a hero on screen.

I thought the 18 year old stood his ground impressively considering he was on his own, and did seem to have a valid point to his argument even if he did get a bit gobby with it.
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Tue Jan 15, 2008 4:26 pm

I hate these threads. They should be locked. People give coppers a hard time when in reality, they should be grateful for such a liberal political attitude to policing, a liberal judiciary attitude to sentancing. Leaving the police not only ostracised by the very people they endeavour to protect, but also completely undermined by the courts and the political powers that be.

Lenient sentences yet overly strict bureaucratic nonsense means that criminals can go free on the basis a form wasn't filled out exactly right. On the basis this forum is a cross section of society, the general level of grammatical application here is a good indication that coppers face undue pressure and persecution as a result of substandard education, again Government undermining the police.

Our Police have effectively had their balls cut off by liberal lobbyists putting pressure on a government who like to please everyone. Hence a mutated sense of morality and feral idiots ruining this country, speaking half baked non sense like the majority of this thread.

Go to many countries and back chat the coppers, at best you'll get a thick ear, possibly a deserved kicking plus whatever prosecution ensues.

That 18 year old is a prime example. Praising that muppet is a great example of what's wrong. The lenient law deems that in spite the boy breaking the law and being in the wrong, he gets 14 days to put it right. That means in 14 days if you have not corrected the wrong, the law will be applied. It's not 14 days grace to go on committing the offence, it's not 14 days grace to do as you like. Go driving again, you're still breaking the law. The 14 day period is at the discretion of the officers, not a gift to the offendant.

The reason coppers fail to fully carry out their duties when it comes to car crimes is because detection and solving these crimes is low. This is not good for targets. Targets are set by the government, the government issues directives to the police telling them how to hit their targets, good results means the government can bleat about how good their police are. Being able to crow about a safer country wins votes. Policing is politics.

In reality, police spending, education spending needs to double. Putting more police presence on the street, a visible deterrent. Increased numbers means increased risk to would be criminals. Most crime is opportunist. Remove the opportunity, well you get where I'm going.

This whole liberal mindset that our government has brainwashed us with, telling us not to smack kids, that teachers cannot twist an ear or a clout from the cane, that the police become criminals if they lay a finger on you is part of the rot. This liberal self congratulating, civilised culture that the government have instilled, making people believe we are so much better than everyone else is undermining society.

There is no respect for authority. Young impressionable people need discipline and authority in their lives. This should come from parents, teachers and police. A few generations of no input from parents and this attitude creeping into liberal councils, completely disregarding any respect for authority.

Hence scrotes like this 18 year old getting away with his attitude. Try that in Spain and see what happens. You wont do it again.

Before the police get blamed for what seems like the folly of idiots, take a step back and look at the big picture and ask why they are doing what they are doing. Why criminals seem to have a free reign to run riot. Why the police have their hands tied. Ask who makes them carry out such actions and point the finger at government types, your mp for starters, clamouring for positive media coverage to further their own careers. Take this new 'zero tolerance' for knife crime. I thought carrying knives was illegal...

So what will happen. Well as we are a country of lackadaisical apathetic pacifists, we'll continue to roll over, take it up the arse as the government futher distances itself from the people. Voter numbers have dropped, no one connects with political parties, we may as well be a communist state. Those who seek power will be handed it by the meek. People will continue to bitch on forums, the government continues to laugh as the finger is pointed at the puppets, not the puppet masters.

The Police are just people carrying out a thankless task. They deserve more respect. Like any section of any workforce, there's good and bad. They do not deserve the shit being spouted by idiots on here.
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Tue Jan 15, 2008 4:28 pm

krazypaul wrote:
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ste wrote: Oooh the irony! :D
ok , grammar lol

as for the capital "I" well, you can let me off that :wink:
Not when you fail to capitalise letters at the beginning of all of your sentences....

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In the same way you will not be let off for starting a sentence with 'Not'...
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Tue Jan 15, 2008 4:58 pm

Rosc0PColtrane wrote:I hate these threads. They should be locked.
Why? Is it because you hate them or is it because you are an advocate of the very opposite of a "liberal political attitude"?
People give coppers a hard time when in reality,
I did no such thing. I just highlighted what was a) in the tv programme last night and b) my own experience of being stopped for no reason.
They do not deserve the shit being spouted by idiots on here.
I was prepared to take your long winded rant against liberalism with a pinch of salt until you called me an idiot.

Easy tiger!

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Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:05 pm

This thread should probably be locked, it was only a warning to you people about E30s being stolen. No intention of bashing the police or their service was intended, it's gone completely off topic.

Well said Rosc.
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Rosc0PColtrane wrote:I hate these threads. They should be locked.... [Snipped in case the internet runs out of words]
Cracking post and I agree.
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krazypaul wrote:
Rosc0PColtrane wrote:I hate these threads. They should be locked.
Why? Is it because you hate them or is it because you are an advocate of the very opposite of a "liberal political attitude"?
People give coppers a hard time when in reality,
I did no such thing. I just highlighted what was a) in the tv programme last night and b) my own experience of being stopped for no reason.
They do not deserve the shit being spouted by idiots on here.
I was prepared to take your long winded rant against liberalism with a pinch of salt until you called me an idiot.

Easy tiger!

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Actually wasn't aimed at you, I wasn't calling you an idiot. I was pointing out the irony of calling out grammatical errors, employing the use of an error.

Though changing an opinion about a post based on a throwaway comment is quesitonable.

The ignorance displayed by some of the posters was rediculous, uninteligent, not to be masked as liberal. That's what I hate. I'm all for reasoned debate, nothing is black and white. This thread is a bad advert for the general standing of this forum.

As to points a and b, as I said, ask why, rather than point the finger. Raise the debate above dull guttersniping. It's testiment to policy not the decisions of an individual.

Surely a liberal and tolerant society would accept being stopped by the plod and be compliant?

Rather than drawing your own conclusions that it was aimed at you (though I have to question why you took offence.....), post something intelligent and thought provoking.
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Tue Jan 15, 2008 6:25 pm

yes indeed . and lets leave the you missed out a comma and spelt a word wrong crap for the playground eh?
im so much cleverer than you as i know big words is schoolkid stuff.
and that wasnt aimed at you nathan but the ones that put down someones opinion and resort to the personal insults because they have poor spelling. it happens oh so often on here. :wink:
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Tue Jan 15, 2008 6:36 pm

Ian_M wrote:This thread should probably be locked
What a jolly decent idea :D
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