flat black

[gotabmw]

hi all havnt been on here for about 5 years used to have a 318i but got lost in other cars
have a mr2 turbo at the minute its on swapz
the reason ive come here is to find out about a 1988 e30 325 ive been offered for a swap havnt seen any pics yet but been told its in a rare flat black did bmw do a flat black or has it just been spray with rattle cans and the owner is trying it on cheers

[ross_jsy]

It's been sprayed with rattle cans and it will be a dog.

[gotabmw]

this is what im hoping it will look like












but it will more than likely look like this



although at least i would have somewhere to put my luggage

[suchy]

^^^ yup nail on head!!!

[suchy]

'Flat' black is indeed very rare on an E30... Very rare that it will look good or be done properly!

[gotabmw]

just been sent a photo of it and it looks like this



dosnt look flat black to me looks ok shame about the back doors though

[Fastroad]

Shame they didnt supply a rack for your luggage, so guess the extra doors will help with loading in the back a˜Š

[steve_k]

just been sent a photo of it and it looks like this



dosnt look flat black to me looks ok shame about the back doors though

Looks like satin black that's been polished/ lacquered.

Could be wrong though.

[pacerpete]

It will be 'glans schwartz' which is straight non metallic gloss black. The Chinese do not pay extra for metallic finishes so it was a smart move by the original owner

[gotabmw]

realy want a 2 door depends what io get offered for mine on swapz though keep getting offered cars that are to new like 2004 only do retro cheeper insurance and individuality

[jmc330i]

It's been sprayed with rattle cans and it will be a dog.

Flat black, not matte black. Flat black = non metallic. If its on swapz it will most likely be a dog though.

[gotabmw]

my cars on swaps and its not a dog thanks

[DanThe]

my cars on swaps and its not a dog thanks

Got a link?

[gotabmw]

yes i have
go on tell me its adog

http://www.swapz.co.uk/swapz/4257259/to ... _vtec_why/

[Rich320I]

dog

joking, looks nice,

i served one of those at the lights, the other week, in my tech 1. (was just the 2 liter non turbo though) , the middle aged balding owner looked less than impressed

[gotabmw]

im middle aged but not bald and id have kicked your butt lol

[gotabmw]

well im off to see the car on wednesday so wish me luck
whats the most important things i should look out for apart from the obvious rust

[jmc330i]

whats the most important things i should look out for apart from the obvious rust

The un-obvious rust! Hidden in the inner rear arches or under the front footwell carpet for example.

I can't see the pics properly on my phone, but are the bottoms of the front wings a different colour to the top? Looks like they've been painted with the same paint as the sills??


Nice MR2 btw

[gotabmw]

Cheers mr2 is nice but only got 2 seats
Always liked the e30 miss the last 1 I had
Had an e36 cab a little while back but got to wet
Looks like the bottom of the wings are stone chipped or mat black will have to ask before I drive 50 miles to look thing is sellers nearly always lie about the condition of their car dont know why as if its sh@t I wont swap and well have both wasted our time and petrol

[Blitz]

I would not bother seeing it. You can see stone chip on the rear arches as well which means its been used to cover up rust.

[gotabmw]

Whats a 4 door 325 worth any way 150000 miles tax and mot few mods

Heres the description he gave me
2.5 litre straight 6 m20b25
Engine is fresh, reponsive and lively.
150k miles 
red silicone samco rad hoses
powerflow exhuast...kind of loud
k&n induction.....sounds real smooth and clean
chipped by endtuning
17inch oz dish alloys
m tec2 front bumper and spoiler
brandnew nankang tyres on rear 2 weeks ago
getting a fresh oil change this week...premium oil
momo steering wheel
lowered 30mm 
rare flat black paint it has a fast road clutch and drilled discs. 
10 months mot and 4 months- tax.

[jmc330i]

I don't know much about MR2s, but I suspect he would be getting the better end of the deal if it was a straight swap!

[BenHar]

Whats a 4 door 325 worth any way 150000 miles tax and mot few mods

Heres the description he gave me
2.5 litre straight 6 m20b25
Engine is fresh, reponsive and lively.
150k miles 
red silicone samco rad hoses
powerflow exhuast...kind of loud
k&n induction.....sounds real smooth and clean
chipped by endtuning
17inch oz dish alloys
m tec2 front bumper and spoiler
brandnew nankang tyres on rear 2 weeks ago
getting a fresh oil change this week...premium oil
momo steering wheel
lowered 30mm 
rare flat black paint it has a fast road clutch and drilled discs. 
10 months mot and 4 months- tax.

Chav mobeel.

Ben

[gotabmw]

What should I be looking at then somthing a bit newer
Mr2 is worth 1.5 to 2 grand what makes it chavy

[BenHar]

what makes it chavy

red silicone samco rad hoses
powerflow exhuast...kind of loud
k&n induction.....sounds real smooth and clean
chipped by endtuning
17inch oz dish alloys
m tec2 front bumper and spoiler
brandnew nankang tyres on rear 2 weeks ago
momo steering wheel
lowered 30mm
it has a fast road clutch and drilled discs.

Ben

[jmc330i]

Can't see an mtech2 front bumper in the pics.

£2k will buy a decent E30 (which may need a bit of tidying, but nothing serious) unless you're looking at Sports. A tidy 325ise is a nice place to be and won't suffer the Mtech Sport tax.

A guy at work has some mates who have picked up E36 325i and 328i for well under £2k (the 328i was through swapz for a Civic iirc). Both decent cars, although the 328i had headgasket issues... hence my comment above.

[G-Bear]

red silicone samco rad hoses - Not much to comment but does sway towards the chavs.
powerflow exhuast...kind of loud - Powerflow are over priced for what they are, do nothing performance wise. Just "look nice" and "sound nice".
k&n induction.....sounds real smooth and clean - Again does nothing performance wise. I bought an E30 with an induction and it ran so much smoother after putting the standard factory filter back on.
chipped by end tuning - Don't know much about chips.
17inch oz dish alloys - Ruins the handling on an E30
m tec2 front bumper and spoiler
brandnew nankang tyres on rear 2 weeks ago - Budget tyres
momo steering wheel - personal preference, but favoured for the chav
lowered 30mm
it has a fast road clutch and drilled discs. - Would have thought a "fast road clutch" would give no gains and just fail faster than one of OE quality. Drilled discs on an E30 do nothing but again will "look nice".


There's nothing wrong with doing whatever you wish to you're own car, but when it comes to selling (or swapping) it; with the above sort of spec its never inviting.

Specific to the E30, the above shows a lack of knowledge to the charateristics of the car, and just going through pages of Max Power, ordering shiny things.

If I were to buy that I certainly wouldn't be parting with £2000... more like sub £500. But as mentioned already with various patches of additional stone chip on arches and sills it might be better off in china..

[gotabmw]

Cheers for the info ill look elsewhere
Been offered a 328i sport might have a look at that only probs is its an e36

[steve_k]

Just because a car is matte/flat/satin black does not always mean it's been painted with rattle cans,

You never heard of the 50 dollar paint job (Google it), you can get some very good paint jobs using a radiator roller & to finish use a HVLP sprayer, a mate of mine did his mk1 transit in this way & the finish is spot on, even though it was done on his drive out in the open.