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Fri Aug 09, 2013 2:20 pm

Now I've only got the E30 and no second car my premium has risen from £230 to £800!!

Tried Lancaster, Footman James, Sureterm and they all have the requirement of a second car before giving cheap classic insurance.

Would be grateful of any recommendations if anyone has any.
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Fri Aug 09, 2013 3:54 pm

What do you expect ? Its no 2nd car/classic and now your daily

But try carol nash
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Fri Aug 09, 2013 3:58 pm

Adrian flux have always been fairly low for me, they've never asked about whether it is my 2nd car or not.
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polsta wrote:What do you expect ?
The worst
polsta wrote:Its no 2nd car/classic and now your daily

But try carol nash
Trying them now but still don't qualify for classic car without second car... but can't get through anyway...
RobWill116 wrote:Adrian flux have always been fairly low for me, they've never asked about whether it is my 2nd car or not.
I used them years ago but their prices went through the roof. I will try them again and see what the damage is.
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Quoted £410 by Adrian Flux - not bad...
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Fri Aug 09, 2013 6:37 pm

Had the impression (from reading other bits of the Net) that you can run it on classic policy but you never build up/keep any no claims so therefore after a couple of years you've lost the no claims discount you've built up over the years incase you change your mind and go back to a typical car....?
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Toe wrote:Had the impression (from reading other bits of the Net) that you can run it on classic policy but you never build up/keep any no claims so therefore after a couple of years you've lost the no claims discount you've built up over the years incase you change your mind and go back to a typical car....?
That is the case

I had difficulty a few months ago - I had 3 cars insured at one point, a daily, a classic 2nd car policy and a land rover 2nd car policy, cheap as chips

Then sold the daily, kept other 2 going, then sold and insured another classic as a 2nd car coz I had the land rover, my no claims bonus expired after 2 years

Then took classic off the road leaving me with a range rover daily- when I went to renew it it went right up to silly amounts as it was no longer 2nd car, and as no claims had expired it made me like a bad driver with no no claims

Luckily Adrian flux came good - as I'd earnt the no claims with them originally even tho it had expired they did me a deal and rescued it if I insuredc with them, So let me use it and were far cheaper than anyone else, and when its up this year il have an extra no claims on top, so a daily driver car will be cheap again
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Got insured with Adrian flux this week for £370, plus they do no claims on classic policies, bonus. They were very expensive years ago when I got a quote from them. Was with footman James for 3 years and every year they increased it! Bastards. The first year I got it for £255, 3 years on they are wanting just shy of £400.
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Fri Aug 09, 2013 7:05 pm

Classic car insurance is not always the cheapest option, Toby.
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Fri Aug 09, 2013 7:23 pm

polsta wrote:
Toe wrote:Had the impression (from reading other bits of the Net) that you can run it on classic policy but you never build up/keep any no claims so therefore after a couple of years you've lost the no claims discount you've built up over the years incase you change your mind and go back to a typical car....?
That is the case

I had difficulty a few months ago - I had 3 cars insured at one point, a daily, a classic 2nd car policy and a land rover 2nd car policy, cheap as chips

Then sold the daily, kept other 2 going, then sold and insured another classic as a 2nd car coz I had the land rover, my no claims bonus expired after 2 years

Then took classic off the road leaving me with a range rover daily- when I went to renew it it went right up to silly amounts as it was no longer 2nd car, and as no claims had expired it made me like a bad driver with no no claims

Luckily Adrian flux came good - as I'd earnt the no claims with them originally even tho it had expired they did me a deal and rescued it if I insuredc with them, So let me use it and were far cheaper than anyone else, and when its up this year il have an extra no claims on top, so a daily driver car will be cheap again
Found this out the hard way. Had been on classic insurance for a while with the same insurer, when I got the e30 I thought it should have been cheaper so checked about my no claims and they said I didn't have any.

Have a company car as the daily so the e30 is my only insurance in my name. Switched to a limited mileage policy that acrues no claims now. Back to 3 year no claims but have been driving without an fault claim for 26 :(

Insured with Adrian Flux now.
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Fri Aug 09, 2013 7:27 pm

Gooner mate, it has been the cheapest option for me so far by quite a margin. You are right, it's not the cheapest option now.

Toe, jas025 and Polsta - great info thanks - and Adrian Flux have given me the best price so far.

These insurance companies generally seem to go through phases of offering cheaper deals to NEW customers for a few years and then jacking their prices up.
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Fri Aug 09, 2013 7:48 pm

I just don't feel comfortable with Adrian Flux, as for Lancaster I've got the e24 on a classic policy with them for £120 FC, agreed value and legal cover (even though its not needed)

But it has to be a second car, however of you tell them that its your only car & you commute with public transport you may be able to get a reasonable quote out of them. Never tried it but it is a feasible reasons to not have a car
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They don't put the 'I walk/bus to work' into the computer.

'Policies are designed with broad brush strokes.' the insurance guy said.

'Yeah £570 wide brush strokes,' I said.
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Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:17 pm

Fuck their on line quotation system, I rang up for a price and I did that 6 years ago and it stayed about the same for 5 years but this year it dropped, but I binned all their extras like key cover and legal protection, but the latter they threw in for free eventually

I'm sure you'll get a decent price eventually
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But it has to be a second car, however of you tell them that its your only car & you commute with public transport you may be able to get a reasonable quote out of them. Never tried it but it is a feasible reasons to not have a car
Also Would all depend on the milage people are saying , if you get a strict limited milage on it then it will be cheaper, if its your only car and you're saying 8-10k a year then it will be a lot lot more, the milage you say makes a difference
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Thanks for you optimism, genuinely.

I'm just waiting for a few brokers to get back to me and then I can decide.
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Also Would all depend on the milage people are saying , if you get a strict limited milage on it then it will be cheaper, if its your only car and you're saying 8-10k a year then it will be a lot lot more, the milage you say makes a difference
I will still be doing less than 5000 in that car anyway so it's unjustified that the insurance should rise regardless of a second car. 5000 miles is 5000 miles. Same risk, same driver same conditions.
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Fri Aug 09, 2013 9:28 pm

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polsta wrote:[
Also Would all depend on the milage people are saying , if you get a strict limited milage on it then it will be cheaper, if its your only car and you're saying 8-10k a year then it will be a lot lot more, the milage you say makes a difference
I will still be doing less than 5000 in that car anyway so it's unjustified that the insurance should rise regardless of a second car. 5000 miles is 5000 miles. Same risk, same driver same conditions.
Very good point, Toby.
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Sat Aug 10, 2013 4:45 pm

classic car policies require you to have access to another car, not own one. are you not insured on your mrs / parents / mates car? can you get insured on someone elses for £50 or whatever it might cost? I once added myself to my girlfriends policy and it went down! ????

My classic policy with Lancaster doesn't acrue no claims bonus but they will hold it on file for you. I tend to pay the extra for a normal policy every year or two just to make sure i keep it going.
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kman82 wrote:classic car policies require you to have access to another car, not own one. are you not insured on your mrs / parents / mates car? can you get insured on someone elses for £50 or whatever it might cost? I once added myself to my girlfriends policy and it went down! ????
Classic car policies didn't always require a second car. I've used them myself before with only one car. They used to stipulate a garage was essential but now a second car is more important.

I asked about insurance on a someone else's car but it only serves as a discount if that car is insured at YOUR household and therefore the car is available for you to use. If I insured on another car it would have to be at my address, not my mate's address nor my mum's, girlfriend's etc not even my neighbour's address.

So be careful because unless your girlfriend and you share the insurance address your insurance may be invalid.
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I don't think that's true, I queried this with Lancaster and they said I just had to have access to another car. Another example is a company car which would be insured to an office.

Also just got a quote from compare the market with 2 options. 1 if I own another car and 2 if I have access to 1. I clicked the 2nd and Adrian flux came out tops at £134. I do need to confirm this with them though
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I hope it isn't true but the guy I was speaking to was a bit literal and patronising so that's what he told me. You've got some bloody good prices there.
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toby wrote:Quoted £410 by Adrian Flux - not bad...
They've just quoted me £125 for next year. 30yo, 7years ncb clean licence and 8000 miles. Thats as a second/ third car.
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I can't quite believe £134!! Need to phone them tomoz and see what's been left out
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How much insurance are you guys paying on your other cars? Maybe the insurance industry considers they have got their pound of flesh from you already.
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toby wrote:Quoted £410 by Adrian Flux - not bad...
They've just quoted me £125 for next year. 30yo, 7years ncb clean licence and 8000 miles. Thats as a second/ third car.
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Er, you just said that...
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Toe wrote:Had the impression (from reading other bits of the Net) that you can run it on classic policy but you never build up/keep any no claims so therefore after a couple of years you've lost the no claims discount you've built up over the years incase you change your mind and go back to a typical car....?
Buy this: http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/ ... ?logcode=p

Register in your name, leave in shed, insure for 5 years for about 50 quid a year. Get yourself 5 years no claims for under 400 quid. Sell bike for a profit.
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Typing on my phone, it does random reposts sorry. I'm £210 on my wee skoda van with full business insurance for me and the wife and on employers business. Not that its needed cos it's just a run around. I'm also £225 or so on my Mondeo zetec s diesel. Last year the e30 was £275. Meant to say it's been turbo'd and they've insured it with a limit of 400bhp. It's not mapped yet but who's to say it's 400 crank bhp or 400 wheel hp they mean ;-)
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Buy this: http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/ ... ?logcode=p

Register in your name, leave in shed, insure for 5 years for about 50 quid a year. Get yourself 5 years no claims for under 400 quid. Sell bike for a profit.[/quote]

Bike insurance is separate to car insurance my friend. Also would need cbt etc
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kman82 wrote:Buy this: http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/ ... ?logcode=p

Register in your name, leave in shed, insure for 5 years for about 50 quid a year. Get yourself 5 years no claims for under 400 quid. Sell bike for a profit.
Bike insurance is separate to car insurance my friend. Also would need cbt etc[/quote]

Indeed it is. But I have transferred my no claims from a motorbike to a car. Without the knowledge and personal experience, I would not have made the suggestion. In my experience, hardly any insurer refuses to accept motorbike no claims when transferring to a car.
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Im a 26 year old with 6 Points (IN10) within past 5 years (they have come off my license this year (4th year), but still considered within the 5 years. If you've ever had a IN10 you will know how much of a PITA it is to get insured with this conviction (driving without insurance). Last year I was paying £1700 on a 1.4 VW Polo!

Classiclineinsurance did me quote for £600. E30 being my only car with 5000 miles.

I also put on the file 4 years NCB. The company also allows you to accrue NCB. So hopefully next year I'll have 5 Years NCB, and a complete clean history.

It's going to be interesting how much it will cost to insure as a daily and only car.
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Tue Aug 20, 2013 12:46 pm

Try Heritage too. They don't seem to unreasonable.
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