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Sun Mar 24, 2013 9:26 pm

No way that's done 26k miles unless its spent all its life in the sun.
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Sun Mar 24, 2013 9:32 pm

Bloody hell low miles or what that must have gone to a collector surely.......
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Sun Mar 24, 2013 9:38 pm

The car is a minter my mates mate bought it should be with us during the week orignal wheels will be going back on the car
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Sun Mar 24, 2013 9:47 pm

Proper cars usually do not get lowered,tinted and have their repeaters put on incorrectly. This will no doubt have a story like most .

Please tell me that when they fitted the springz and rimz they did not get medieval with the rear arches ! 8O :o :eek:
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Sun Mar 24, 2013 9:49 pm

Not to mention the incorrectly parked headlamp wipers. :wink:
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pacerpete wrote:Proper cars usually do not get lowered,tinted and have their repeaters put on incorrectly. This will no doubt have a story like most .

Please tell me that when they fitted the springz and rimz they did not get medieval with the rear arches ! 8O :o :eek:
Won't take much to put back to standard Peter
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Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:14 pm

death wrote:
pacerpete wrote:Proper cars usually do not get lowered,tinted and have their repeaters put on incorrectly. This will no doubt have a story like most .

Please tell me that when they fitted the springz and rimz they did not get medieval with the rear arches ! 8O :o :eek:
Won't take much to put back to standard Peter
Put the wheels back on and pretty much back to standard. Ok if you really want to be picky go and buy too new wings without repeaters.

I agree with Pete there could be some story behind it all. As a friend of mine bought his from new in Germany and is lowered with big wheels and was track prepared but never hit the track in the end and has stayed in storage most of its life and only has a few thousand km on it, you can't really say its not genuine unless you know the car.

This just goes to show the prices are out of control 40k+ over a standard E30 m3 doesn't make sense
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Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:19 pm

Fastroad wrote:
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pacerpete wrote:Proper cars usually do not get lowered,tinted and have their repeaters put on incorrectly. This will no doubt have a story like most .

Please tell me that when they fitted the springz and rimz they did not get medieval with the rear arches ! 8O :o :eek:
Won't take much to put back to standard Peter
Put the wheels back on and pretty much back to standard. Ok if you really want to be picky go and buy too new wings without repeaters.

So guys what's the one on piston heads real vale fast rd

I agree with Pete there could be some story behind it all. As a friend of mine bought his from new in Germany and is lowered with big wheels and was track prepared but never hit the track in the end and has stayed in storage most of its life and only has a few thousand km on it, you can't really say its not genuine unless you know the car.

This just goes to show the prices are out of control 40k+ over a standard E30 m3 doesn't make sense
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Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:20 pm

What's the real value of the one on piston heads fast rd
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THE_GODFATHER wrote:What's the real value of the one on piston heads fast rd
I'm not really the person to put a value on someone's car. The proof is there for all to see if a 25000km car is selling for £63k what's is one with over 70k miles on it worth? Can't be more then £63k or anywhere close as its more then 4times the mileage.

It all comes down to what someone is willing to pay.
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All off the market for new pricing
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The sport evo advert has disappeared from piston heads now
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Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:52 pm

He must of being testing the water in this climate ....lol
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Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:55 pm

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pony wrote: Hardly the constructive comment I was expecting from a "respected E30 author"
Oh well, I will shed a tear for u. Sorry u feel that way. The answer reflected the question perfectly. :D
If I remember correctly, this car was a dealers executives car and then passed to another dealer executive after that it was imported by a diplomat to the UK (not really a racer more for that fact it was the top of the range car in its class) and Pete bought it off him.

Judging from that its more then likely it was not tracked, but I'm sure Pete could shed more light on that.
No, wrong car.
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Mon Mar 25, 2013 8:41 am

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THE_GODFATHER wrote:What's the real value of the one on piston heads fast rd
I'm not really the person to put a value on someone's car. The proof is there for all to see if a 25000km car is selling for £63k what's is one with over 70k miles on it worth? Can't be more then £63k or anywhere close as its more then 4times the mileage.

It all comes down to what someone is willing to pay.
Surely u cannot based price soly on mileage
Other factors like condition, service history, number of owners etc should all play a part
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Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:03 am

pony wrote:
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THE_GODFATHER wrote:What's the real value of the one on piston heads fast rd
I'm not really the person to put a value on someone's car. The proof is there for all to see if a 25000km car is selling for £63k what's is one with over 70k miles on it worth? Can't be more then £63k or anywhere close as its more then 4times the mileage.

It all comes down to what someone is willing to pay.
Surely u cannot based price soly on mileage
Other factors like condition, service history, number of owners etc should all play a part
The car that sold showed full service history stamped book from dealer (how real it is I have no idea).

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I expect the buyer checked this and only 1 owner/1 trader. (Car parked up for nearly 9yrs based on service history, not unusual for M3, as I have a garage queen that I don't drive or tax hence I don't service it).

Price is always based on mileage and condition that reflects that mileage (in the case of low mileage cars)

Only documented nut and bolt restorations including engine are exception to the mileage rule, example E30 LO.
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Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:31 am

Would need servicing every 2 years irrespective of mileage
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Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:52 am

pony wrote:Would need servicing every 2 years irrespective of mileage
Where did you hear that??

If your not driving the car there is no need to change anything until you decide to drive it.

Also it depends on how you are storing the car, if its in a heated garage you don't have to change the oil at all.

The two year BS is just a garage myth.
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Mon Mar 25, 2013 10:47 am

Any of the modern E46 M3 CS/CSL and E92 M3s require servicing every 2 years at the very minimum irrespective of mileage so BMW Oil Service/BMW Inspection I Service/BMW Oil Service/BMW Inspection II Service etc

I would imagine same again for E36s. For E30s same again though I am not sure does not the handbook stipulate annual checks and services for E30s ?

Either way from what I have read .... Oil would degrade, fuel would go off, all moving parts need lubrication and may become stiff, rubber bushes, hoses, seals may need replacing, new tyres etc. all the fluids changed.

If the new owner is a totally minted or multi millionaire maybe he checked all out and is ok with it or he will just totally recommission it with new engine / new gearbox etc
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Mon Mar 25, 2013 12:03 pm

Even if stored, a car needs looking at every year - not a service, but a check over to prevent it deteriorating. It wants a good drive to get it up to temp and get everything hot and moving. Brake fluid needs changing ideally every couple of years, but if you use proper quality long life coolant, that can stay in for up to 5 years. The MOT test is an ideal time to do all this, but there's no point in changing the oil every 2 years if it's only done 20 miles between MOT's.
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Mon Mar 25, 2013 12:13 pm

Oil degrades and loses its important qualities over time though this increases with mileage still loses it vital properties
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pony wrote:Oil degrades and loses its important qualities over time though this increases with mileage still loses it vital properties
Really? Over what period of time, exactly?
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pony wrote:Oil degrades and loses its important qualities over time though this increases with mileage still loses it vital properties
Really? Over what period of time, exactly?
usually over the period of a few million years whilst under the north sea ?
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Mon Mar 25, 2013 2:12 pm

what oill left in the north sea :D - maggie sold most of it at discounted prices to stay in term longer than she should have, now back to the main topic wasn't there a superb near mint Sport Evo on here aroound 6 months ago, had 137,000 on the clock and was price at about £28k, it sold for full asking price within 4 days
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pony wrote:Oil degrades and loses its important qualities over time though this increases with mileage still loses it vital properties
Really? Over what period of time, exactly?
Use your brain and google it

Why else would BMW stipulate changing the oil every 2 years
Are u telling me u know more than BMWs engineers and millions spent in R&D about oil
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driftmaster808 wrote:what oill left in the north sea :D - maggie sold most of it at discounted prices to stay in term longer than she should have, now back to the main topic wasn't there a superb near mint Sport Evo on here aroound 6 months ago, had 137,000 on the clock and was price at about £28k, it sold for full asking price within 4 days
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pony wrote:
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pony wrote:Oil degrades and loses its important qualities over time though this increases with mileage still loses it vital properties
Really? Over what period of time, exactly?
Use your brain and google it

Why else would BMW stipulate changing the oil every 2 years
Are u telling me u know more than BMWs engineers and millions spent in R&D about oil

Soni, you need to spend more time barebacking and less time ingesting BMWs corporate BS.

BMW are much more interested in the contents of your wallet that the condition of car they sold 20+ years ago.

The condition of a low mileage car is entirely dependant on how well it is stored and maintained. Careful and regular use is much better for a car than long periods of inactivity. A car that has sat without being touched for ten years will need much more recommissioning than a car that has done ten miles every few months.

A car is only 'original' once hence verified low mileage nice cars are much more sought after and valuable than 'restored' higher mileage cars. Peadoes that buy 25km M3s are not buying them to drive them.
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driftmaster808 wrote:what oill left in the north sea :D - maggie sold most of it at discounted prices to stay in term longer than she should have, now back to the main topic wasn't there a superb near mint Sport Evo on here aroound 6 months ago, had 137,000 on the clock and was price at about £28k, it sold for full asking price within 4 days
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Maggie also is directly responsible for the Cypriot crisis and the current cold snap. Tory cooont :)
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pony wrote:
Why else would BMW stipulate changing the oil every 2 years
Are u telling me u know more than BMWs engineers and millions spent in R&D about oil
You really believe what BMW stipulate in the handbook applies to every car they make in every scenario each car find themselves in eventually?...

IE: Did BMW, when writing the bible (handbook) and stipulating an oil change every 24 months ,take into account that a car may be parked up in a heated garage for a prolonged period of time which could run into years, and thus not start or be driven for that whole time, but oil still needs to be changed in situ every 24 months?

Can you not see that it would be a pointless waste of time, oil, and effort, when the oil is not even going to move around the engine in that time?
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pony wrote:
Andyboy wrote:
pony wrote:Oil degrades and loses its important qualities over time though this increases with mileage still loses it vital properties
Really? Over what period of time, exactly?
Use your brain and google it

Why else would BMW stipulate changing the oil every 2 years
Are u telling me u know more than BMWs engineers and millions spent in R&D about oil
Oh dear.


Given that oil has a shelf life of four to five years, why would you change the oil in an unused car every two?

Use your wits please, all 50% of them. :D
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Mon Mar 25, 2013 3:22 pm

So should the oil turn acidic would not that be bad for the engine ?
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pony wrote:So should the oil turn acidic would not that be bad for the engine ?
And why would it become acidic, given that acid is a byproduct of combustion, a process that's a bit unlikely in a car that is stored and unused? :mad:

Did you not consider that there may, just may be additives in engine oil to counteract it....?
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pony wrote:So should the oil turn acidic would not that be bad for the engine ?

Yeah, but great for your chips. :)
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How often were the intervals for an oil change on the milion mile e30?
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