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Fri Feb 01, 2013 4:24 pm

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suedenim wrote: i don't see many of them lasting 20+ years like genuine BBS.
Cause you know most of the E30's on here are going to last another 20+ years :mad:
Ok, they will look ropey after 5 years probably and Ebay will be flooded with second hand going for toffees in a few years.
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suedenim wrote:I half thought about a set of Lenso, dare, etc because it looks good to have that kind of dish but it's the quality that puts me off, i don't see many of them lasting 20+ years like genuine BBS. Splits may cost a lot but they are a true investment, you'll always get your money back on them, possibly more.
I think I would now prefer to spend the money on a quality refurb of my std 15" BBS, possibly diamond cut or polished rim, nice new badges, decent tyres. I would never look at them and wish they were real thing... :)
Thats a bit excessive, how many sets of BBS's have been kept on a car 20 years??!!

Fuck me look at the state of 95% of style 5 BBS's on cars that they were specced on, they are fucked!

Most other BBS's have been sat in someones shed forgotten about. If you keep your wheels for 20 years then good on you but comparing a 20 year life span is a bit retarded
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Fri Feb 01, 2013 5:17 pm

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suedenim wrote:I half thought about a set of Lenso, dare, etc because it looks good to have that kind of dish but it's the quality that puts me off, i don't see many of them lasting 20+ years like genuine BBS. Splits may cost a lot but they are a true investment, you'll always get your money back on them, possibly more.
I think I would now prefer to spend the money on a quality refurb of my std 15" BBS, possibly diamond cut or polished rim, nice new badges, decent tyres. I would never look at them and wish they were real thing... :)
Thats a bit excessive, how many sets of BBS's have been kept on a car 20 years??!!

**** me look at the state of 95% of style 5 BBS's on cars that they were specced on, they are ******!

Most other BBS's have been sat in someones shed forgotten about. If you keep your wheels for 20 years then good on you but comparing a 20 year life span is a bit retarded
Point taken, most genuine, German quality wheels won't last for 20 plus years of everyday use, so what chance do the wheels discussed have of lasting. Thanks for highlighting my point.
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Fri Feb 01, 2013 6:23 pm

Simply that you cannot draw a direct comparison between the two different wheels.

It's obvious in the price draw backs in the price, you cannot tell someone not to buy wheels for £350 and tell them to buy the real things at £1500+!!
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What I cant stand is when people have genuine bbs splits on utter turds / rust buckets and call it the 'rat look!'

If you cant afford a decent paintjob, sell the originals, get the reps, and get a decent paint job!
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Fri Feb 01, 2013 6:51 pm

One good point my turd has had a re-spray
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Fri Feb 01, 2013 7:13 pm

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bab-91 wrote: + 1

Why waste your money on anything other than the real McCoy?
Because some people (including myself) can't afford to pay £1000 + for a second hand set of BBS RS wheels and they are like hens teeth.
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Never understood this. A work colleague bought fake splits and I asked him would he buy fake designer gear or cheap repo's. He was borderline insulted.

If you cant afford an Iphone you don't but a chinese copy. If you cant afford designer gear you wouldn't buy cheap knock offs from a market but yet he would buy fake splits.

If you cant afford them go buy a nice wheel that isn't a fake split! People who know what they are, will know you are penniless peasant ... :D
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Fri Feb 01, 2013 7:35 pm

Bold statement, as there are a lot of wheels that are replicas on a lot of cars, not just the fake splits but all the other types too.
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Fri Feb 01, 2013 7:37 pm

I'm a bold character :D

My beef if is with fake splits more than anything.
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Fri Feb 01, 2013 7:41 pm

I admire boldness

but what about the rep alpinas, schnitzer wheels that bmw people love to run,
And all wheels like rota etc are all copies of other wheels

I get not everyone likes them but it doesn't make them a bad wheel, it's when people can't accept that they are fake
The quality is still as good as any other single piece wheel out there, they are all made in the same factories!
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Fri Feb 01, 2013 7:49 pm

bab-91 wrote:
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Greeny wrote: Because some people (including myself) can't afford to pay £1000 + for a second hand set of BBS RS wheels and they are like hens teeth.
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Never understood this. A work colleague bought fake splits and I asked him would he buy fake designer gear or cheap repo's. He was borderline insulted.

If you cant afford an Iphone you don't but a chinese copy. If you cant afford designer gear you wouldn't buy cheap knock offs from a market but yet he would buy fake splits.

If you cant afford them go buy a nice wheel that isn't a fake split! People who know what they are, will know you are penniless peasant ... :D


Who gives a flying f*** what others think if you cant afford to spend £1500 on the real deal but want the look why not .Alot of people would rather spend that kind of money other things like their family or house for example.

Dont make them penniless peasant because they dont want to spent it on wheels for there car which in most cases is a weekend toy. :D

At the end of the day if we where all in a position to buy the real ones we would but somethings are more important when it comes to spending your hard earned.
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Fri Feb 01, 2013 7:56 pm

Phill172 wrote:I admire boldness

but what about the rep alpinas, schnitzer wheels that bmw people love to run,
And all wheels like rota etc are all copies of other wheels

I get not everyone likes them but it doesn't make them a bad wheel, it's when people can't accept that they are fake
The quality is still as good as any other single piece wheel out there, they are all made in the same factories!
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I think what I said for splits stands for Alpinas as well, They can be spotted for what they are.

I'm sure some of them have matching quality its not a question of quality for me, rather authenticity.

People keep comparing 1500 for bbs - 500 for fake splitz. That's short sighted. The difference being, you will never get that 500 back for fake splits whereas bbs wheels will hold their value.

You will be out of pocket either way but the resell value shouldn't be forgetten
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Fri Feb 01, 2013 10:10 pm

1500 for a set of 8x16 / 9x16 BBS RS in 4x100? Seriously? The ones i've seen (and its rare) have been a lot more than that!
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hammoj28 wrote:1500 for a set of 8x16 / 9x16 BBS RS in 4x100? Seriously? The ones i've seen (and its rare) have been a lot more than that!
16" 4x100 BBS RS that are not re drills are stupidly rare!
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Imo BBS aint as strong as folk make out, ive bent/buckled/dinged/flatspotted at least 5 that i can remember of.
No crash action either this was on general road use, pot holes etc.
Although ive never cracked one, im sure ive read somewhere that Dare rims do crack.
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hammoj28 wrote:1500 for a set of 8x16 / 9x16 BBS RS in 4x100? Seriously? The ones i've seen (and its rare) have been a lot more than that!
16" 4x100 BBS RS that are not re drills are stupidly rare!
Now even Rarer are worth £2.5k+ all day long. :D

Genuine split rims (not RS's) can be bought for a lot less, and does not make them any less of a wheel than the BBS wheel itself.

BBS has a large following, and due to this, there is always someone prepared to pay BIG money for a certain model out there.
Supply and demand.

I have a few here, and have paid reasonable money for them, but where the money is spent is in the refurb and time spent on them.

Buying Fakes is a "Quick" fix, and false economy.
Buy cheap, when they look shit, and it doesn't take long for fakes to look shi7e or buckle.
throw them away, and then add up the cost over a few years. 8O

Buy the "Correct"split rim wheel you want, and over time, you will still recoupe your money back!
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hammoj28 wrote:1500 for a set of 8x16 / 9x16 BBS RS in 4x100? Seriously? The ones i've seen (and its rare) have been a lot more than that!
16" 4x100 BBS RS that are not re drills are stupidly rare!
Now even Rarer are worth £2.5k+ all day long. :D

Genuine split rims (not RS's) can be bought for a lot less, and does not make them any less of a wheel than the BBS wheel itself.

BBS has a large following, and due to this, there is always someone prepared to pay BIG money for a certain model out there.
Supply and demand.

I have a few here, and have paid reasonable money for them, but where the money is spent is in the refurb and time spent on them.

Buying Fakes is a "Quick" fix, and false economy.
Buy cheap, when they look shit, and it doesn't take long for fakes to look shi7e or buckle.
throw them away, and then add up the cost over a few years. 8O

Buy the "Correct"split rim wheel you want, and over time, you will still recoupe your money back!
I was going to say, theres a set on ebay for 2900 euro I think. Very strong money. Lovely wheel.....but not that lovely.

Any recommendations on other decent splits? Obviously Image, however, i've been reading bad things about their quality which is a worry. I was a bit surprised to say the least.
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Sat Feb 02, 2013 12:53 am

Decent Splits??

Plenty to name,

Schmidt wheels

WRD Mesh, if you can find them
Impulse Silouette, again, if you can find a set

Hartge, AC Schnitzer, which can both be run with decent adaptors on the E30 due to the high ofset of the wheels

Image "Billet" wheels are supposed to be good, the "Fan" design allows for Hot air to be "Pulled" away from the brakes instead of forcing air onto them.

That's a few :D good ones.
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Sat Feb 02, 2013 1:01 pm

I've been down the whole "Yea man my wheels are genuine splits, really rare.." until I realised..hang on, I'm talking to someone about a wheel?! And that I sounded like a bit of a tosser!

I'll be getting reps this time and saving myself a ton of money which I can either put into other areas of the car or pay ting tong to shoot some ping pong balls from her minge and catch them from my mouth..now that's something I'd much rather talk about!

What was the spec of the ones on your touring Phil? They look pretty damn bad ass!
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ross_jsy wrote:No matter how good a set of fake splits look/how well made they are I would never buy them because they have a load of fake bolts around em! Honestly why bother?
+ 1

Why waste your money on anything other than the real McCoy?
Because some people (including myself) can't afford to pay £1000 + for a second hand set of BBS RS wheels and they are like hens teeth.
The point I was trying to make is why do they have to pretend to be a split? Remove the fake bolts and you would have an attractive wheel without trying to fake anything.

I'll eventually stick some RS's or possibly RM's on mainly for the reasons split rims exist, not for bling. Light and forged centres FTW
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Mine are dare 8.5j and 10j in 17s.
I disagree with you rav and that is the point of my comments, the fake wheels that the op posted are not shit because they are fake.
The quality is as good as every other wheel on the market bar the obvious billets etc

I do understand the value/resell value, having had a few sets of genuine split rims and most of the other cars I work with are running e52s etc, the people in the whole bbs/split/wheels scence understand the fakes and accept them for what they are.

I don't believe that buying fakes is a "quick fix", it comes across a bit of a twatish comment as to say your wheels are crap because you didn't spend £2000 on your wheels, it goes against the whole moral of car scenes (to me anyway)

I'm all for bbs, oz, any genuine wheel but when the budget doesn't allow for it, it's the next best things
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If your going to get reps go for Dare i think
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Go for ones that have the bolts lining up with something and not just randomly scattered around the perimeter!
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Rav335uk wrote:
bss325i wrote:
hammoj28 wrote:1500 for a set of 8x16 / 9x16 BBS RS in 4x100? Seriously? The ones i've seen (and its rare) have been a lot more than that!
16" 4x100 BBS RS that are not re drills are stupidly rare!
Now even Rarer are worth £2.5k+ all day long. :D

Genuine split rims (not RS's) can be bought for a lot less, and does not make them any less of a wheel than the BBS wheel itself.

BBS has a large following, and due to this, there is always someone prepared to pay BIG money for a certain model out there.
Supply and demand.

I have a few here, and have paid reasonable money for them, but where the money is spent is in the refurb and time spent on them.

Buying Fakes is a "Quick" fix, and false economy.
Buy cheap, when they look shit, and it doesn't take long for fakes to look shi7e or buckle.
throw them away, and then add up the cost over a few years. 8O

Buy the "Correct"split rim wheel you want, and over time, you will still recoupe your money back!


I agree with rav on this the reps seem to deteriorate very quickly, and it's hard to tell the quality till you've bought them, but I found they start to lacquer peel and go cloudy round the studs, but if you look after them really well and put proper wheel wax on monthly and clean them weekly they will probably last a lot longer. If you,ve got the money get genuines, if you haven't get reps simple.

What can I say though I'm running polished Rh top lines now. Lol
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Mon Feb 04, 2013 10:57 pm

I personally think the wheels you pointed out are the same as dares. One company in china will make them and supply to a whole load of different brands. I'd phone and ask in what way are they different to dares. Otherwise you could end up paying extra for what would be the same...
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Just bought a set to test and report on for all, hopefully we will soon know if they are worth the £350 paid.
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kerrie wrote:Just bought a set to test and report on for all, hopefully we will soon know if they are worth the £350 paid.
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let us know what tyre profile you use and if spacers/spigot rings are needed
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Are they here yet??
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Any news then Kerrie?

I have some BBS RM's sat in my room. I stupidly ran them when there was salt on the road in December and even though they've seen 2 weeks, they need re-polishing already. I put a lot of work and effort into rebuilding them from scratch and I think the process was rewarding to go through, but I don't really think they're worth it.

I've got about £800 in the wheels and I reckon I should break even on them re-polished, but is it really worth all the effort?
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bab-91 wrote:
verde wrote:
Greeny wrote: Because some people (including myself) can't afford to pay £1000 + for a second hand set of BBS RS wheels and they are like hens teeth.
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Never understood this. A work colleague bought fake splits and I asked him would he buy fake designer gear or cheap repo's. He was borderline insulted.

If you cant afford an Iphone you don't but a chinese copy. If you cant afford designer gear you wouldn't buy cheap knock offs from a market but yet he would buy fake splits.

If you cant afford them go buy a nice wheel that isn't a fake split! People who know what they are, will know you are penniless peasant ... :D
Hmm funny territory that. See some Dares get slated for being a Rotiform rep, when in actual fact the Roti's are a Lamborghini rep, so people are ribbing reps for being reps of reps, even though they don't realise the reps that have been repped, are in actual fact reps.

Christ I just confused myself trying to be a smart arse.

In all seriousness though, who really can justify £2k plus on a set of genuine splits to put on an e30 worth any less than £5k?
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Lots of people spend thousands and thousands on their 2 grand turds. Wheels that will hold their value are at least better than gigantic subs in gcse tech class enclosures filling the boot, dog-grade leather retrims in dubious colour combos and the ubiquitous coilovers/k&n performance type mods...
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They have arrived and look great, up close they can be seen to be reps, but still look great, I have large brakes fitted so will need to fit 20mm spacers, I think on standard brakes 10-15mm spacers would be fine.
Good spacers will cost £100 so add that to the £370 purchase delivered and they are not as cheap as planned- although I think the end product will be worth it on my garage queen.
I will post a photo when I have them fitted.
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Check out my dare rs on mine. Done right they make the car just as much as real bbs for a fifth of the price!
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kerrie wrote:Just bought a set to test and report on for all, hopefully we will soon know if they are worth the £350 paid.
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Tyres fitted, 20mm spacers and bolts £120, Tyres £50 transferred and balanced.

I personally are very happy with the result, all in for a bit over £500.

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