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Blitz wrote:It may not be the fastest, but is up there in one of the best sounding. I heard a 335i and it sounded almost electronic.

Yeah shame about the 335i sound. Shame about the fact it does 0-60 in around 5 seconds also, and will murder any e30 on a B road.

The claims of 325is seeing off clio sports is garbage also.
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Wed Apr 28, 2010 11:17 pm

I wouldn't say so.

I had no problem putting some space between me and a new shape one on a realtively straight road. Granted my car is stripped and had a very healthy low mileage FSH m20 compared to most ragged lumps out there but still, I would imagine one with full interior could still do it.

But saying you were pulling away so fast you couldn't make out what mk golf it is, well that is a bare faced lie!
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Wed Apr 28, 2010 11:28 pm

it was a joke not a lie read it properly
its the work of a "maniac"
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I got well and truly spanked by a P reg Saab 9000 Aero 2.3 Turbo earlier tonight. He did get a bit of a run up down a slip road behind me, but by the time I'd clocked him & dropped into third, I was just a spectator. Those things are seriously fast in a straight line.
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Wed Apr 28, 2010 11:59 pm

it seems theres a few people on here who cant stand the fact a fwd girly car got blown off by a 325 hence the sqawkin in the defence of the girly car. 8O

and golfs are girly cars cos they get pulled not pushed !

so there winkeye
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I raced an old corsa near mine a while back and couldn't gain any ground...


Therefore corsas are better than M3s
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Thu Apr 29, 2010 7:57 am

I once raced a Porsche 911 RS on a dual lane road into a large roundabout.

I was getting to my 4000rpm sweet spot and ready to put some distance between us but the 911 driver's remote control got some kind of interference and his car just stopped.

I just caught him swapping his batteries in my rear view mirror as I blasted away into the distance.











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Thu Apr 29, 2010 6:38 pm

jonb wrote:
Blitz wrote:It may not be the fastest, but is up there in one of the best sounding. I heard a 335i and it sounded almost electronic.

Yeah shame about the 335i sound. Shame about the fact it does 0-60 in around 5 seconds also, and will murder any e30 on a B road.

The claims of 325is seeing off clio sports is garbage also.
Aye, and thats before you have got to a circuit, then a clio sport will ruin you.
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Thu Apr 29, 2010 7:44 pm

To right jon.

My partner used to have one, which i managed to drive for a bit. Great cars, and would murder a 325i from 60 onwards. Shes got a mg zr now? lol

All this talk of e30s killing stuff is silly. e30s are good for one thing and thats pissing around in as they are great fun to drive. I still buy and sell a few every now and then, but wenever i turn up at work in one everyone calls it an old banger/shitter lol.

E30s are pure cruisers. If you want a fast car then get a jap car. I had a gtr with 420bhp for about 4 months last year, and it was a pure performance car.
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Thu Apr 29, 2010 7:59 pm

i have had both a 323i and a 325i and found that the 323i was much better of the line but loses it at the top end and the other way round for the 325i slower of the line and more grunt top end you have to keep the revs up
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Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:13 pm

MG ZR huh? They arn't bad cars, good engine, if a little misunderstood. 160? Want a manifold and decat for it. I can do you a good deal :)

I'm up at coombe on Monday as I have a few customer cars racing, and a free ticket. :) I'll be doing a runner if they go bang! What you up to?
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Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:19 pm

325's aren't that fast compared to modern stuff with 225's rubber bands all around, it's the smoothness of the engine and the balance of the chassis that you don't get with modern turbo 4 pot FWD VAG blandness
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Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:23 pm

jonb wrote:The claims of 325is seeing off clio sports is garbage also.
No it f*cking aint!

Not only that, i've driven countless 172's and 182's as i was a Renault dealer tech!

They weight more than a 2dr 325i, have the same power but much less torque!
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Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:27 pm

My 325i aint your average worn out shit box either!
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Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:31 pm

FASTFREDDIE wrote:just had a right giggle with gti on the way home.

i was doing about 50 when this new shape golf starts to pull out from a side rd ,hes edging out expecting me to stop for him.

well as i blast past the front of his motor i notice his tony and guy haircut an paris hilton wannabe girly sitting beside him.

as we come down the rd theres width barriers i go through the barriers and hes up my bottle straight after the barriers im turning left and the rd bends round to the right, time to go me thinks.

i floor the old touring and take off to about 70 the t an g ponce
is trying to keep up but its see ya he only catches up when im
braking for a car in front.

im laughing my nuts off at him well he turns left and gives me the willy wonka hand out of his window the mug.

if you cant win dont play :D winkeye
I doubt very much that the guy really gave a toss. I'm sure he went home and rattled his Paris Hilton wannabe bird.

Why would you even get into something like this... do you really think that guy cares about what is in his eyes a 20 year old piece of scrap?

I love the E30, but outside our circles no-one gives a sh*t about them.

You didn't get one over on this guy, not by a long shot. If he wasn't such a fanny he could easily have had you. A new Golf GTi has 207Bhp with handling to match. I very much doubt your 325i still has 170bhp.

I don't know why some people on here insist on "getting one over" on newer cars... Why can't we just appreciate the E30 for what it is? That's what I do. I love mine, and I couldn't give a toss about drivers of new cars!

If you're so desperate to compete then buy a newer car and compete!
Anyone who knows of an S50 B32/B30 E30 for sale, please let me know.
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Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:48 pm

bss325i wrote:My 325i aint your average worn out shit box either!
What its worse? 8O
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Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:48 pm

march109 wrote:
bss325i wrote:My 325i aint your average worn out shit box either!
What its worse? 8O

Something like that. :wink:
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Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:51 pm

bss325i wrote:
march109 wrote:
bss325i wrote:My 325i aint your average worn out shit box either!
What its worse? 8O

Something like that. :wink:
Bit like mine then... :cool:
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Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:54 pm

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bss325i wrote:My 325i aint your average worn out shit box either!
What its worse? 8O
:rofl:
Anyone who knows of an S50 B32/B30 E30 for sale, please let me know.
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Thu Apr 29, 2010 9:10 pm

Jon_Bmw wrote:MG ZR huh? They arn't bad cars, good engine, if a little misunderstood. 160? Want a manifold and decat for it. I can do you a good deal :)

I'm up at coombe on Monday as I have a few customer cars racing, and a free ticket. :) I'll be doing a runner if they go bang! What you up to?
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Its the 160. It goes well tbh. I will have a word with her about the exhaust. Whats going on at coombe on monday dude? Im working but could possibly get the day off lol.
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Thu Apr 29, 2010 9:13 pm

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jonb wrote:The claims of 325is seeing off clio sports is garbage also.
No it f*cking aint!

Not only that, i've driven countless 172's and 182's as i was a Renault dealer tech!

They weight more than a 2dr 325i, have the same power but much less torque!
lol.

They do not weigh more than an e30. 90% of the time they are better to drive than the e30.
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Thu Apr 29, 2010 9:18 pm

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FASTFREDDIE wrote:just had a right giggle with gti on the way home.

i was doing about 50 when this new shape golf starts to pull out from a side rd ,hes edging out expecting me to stop for him.

well as i blast past the front of his motor i notice his tony and guy haircut an paris hilton wannabe girly sitting beside him.

as we come down the rd theres width barriers i go through the barriers and hes up my bottle straight after the barriers im turning left and the rd bends round to the right, time to go me thinks.

i floor the old touring and take off to about 70 the t an g ponce
is trying to keep up but its see ya he only catches up when im
braking for a car in front.

im laughing my nuts off at him well he turns left and gives me the willy wonka hand out of his window the mug.

if you cant win dont play :D winkeye
I doubt very much that the guy really gave a toss. I'm sure he went home and rattled his Paris Hilton wannabe bird.

Why would you even get into something like this... do you really think that guy cares about what is in his eyes a 20 year old piece of scrap?

I love the E30, but outside our circles no-one gives a sh*t about them.

You didn't get one over on this guy, not by a long shot. If he wasn't such a fanny he could easily have had you. A new Golf GTi has 207Bhp with handling to match. I very much doubt your 325i still has 170bhp.

I don't know why some people on here insist on "getting one over" on newer cars... Why can't we just appreciate the E30 for what it is? That's what I do. I love mine, and I couldn't give a toss about drivers of new cars!

If you're so desperate to compete then buy a newer car and compete!
Da4x4

I aint been on here for a while, but christ i couldnt have put it better myself. Word for word i agree with you...
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Thu Apr 29, 2010 9:18 pm

"The 2.0 16V (F4R) engine delivering 172bhp at 6,250rpm and 200Nm at 5,400rpm, and the gearbox, are carried over. Thanks to the reduced weight, acceleration is improved with a time of 14.8sec to 400m from a standing start, and 27.2sec to 1,000m, compared with 15.1 and 27.7sec respectively for the standard version, helping this lower, firmer, lighter Clio to enter the exclusive group of sporting models capable of reaching 60mph in 6.8 seconds."

:mad:

That is a clio 172 cup, so 80 kilos lighter, but 10 brake down on a 182.

I am not saying one will waste the other on the road, but I doubt there is a lot of difference. I'd be suprised if either was massively faster. The clio WILL be easier to drive faster round a track for sure.

I suspect driving the clio it doesn't give the impression of the speed..whereas an e30...

I like e30's, they are fun, but they arn't a modern car slayer sadly, unless you change the engine.

Jon, not a lot going on at coombe TBH, not worth taking a day off. Working on a Bank Holiday, are you trying to outdo the poles at the car wash! :P
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Thu Apr 29, 2010 9:21 pm

your missing the point mate,he did give a toss oherwise he would'nt of given me the w..ker sign,he got mugged off by a peice of old scrap.

it was hes arrogance that got me he nearly took the front of my motor off expecting me to jump on the brakes to let him out then he comes up my ass when im slowing down.

ok i got it wrong when i said new shape it was'nt and it defo did'nt have 207 brake otherwise he would of been trying to overtake.

and as for being desperate for a new car your having a laugh i'll compete in one of my e30s
and if i get blown off i'll accept it and not start calling the other fella a w..nker

i own 3 e30s cos i love driving em and if that means blowing off some ponce thats got the hump then thats even better.

go and polish your e30 mate cos i drive mine :)
its the work of a "maniac"
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Thu Apr 29, 2010 9:22 pm

The cup is 930kilos Barry, I know working at that French garage disillusioned you somewhat, but pretty much every 'Renault Sport' car has been a bit of a cracker.
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Thu Apr 29, 2010 9:24 pm

lol jon you cheeky bastard. :)

Tbh a clio sport will see of a '327' on the straights also.
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Thu Apr 29, 2010 9:29 pm

FASTFREDDIE wrote:your missing the point mate,he did give a toss oherwise he would'nt of given me the w..ker sign,he got mugged off by a peice of old scrap.
Probably waving you the w*nker because it sounds like you were driving like one. Don't forget kids - points mean prizes, we all win when the tosspots are banned from driving.
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Thu Apr 29, 2010 9:33 pm

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FASTFREDDIE wrote:your missing the point mate,he did give a toss oherwise he would'nt of given me the w..ker sign,he got mugged off by a peice of old scrap.
Probably waving you the w*nker because it sounds like you were driving like one.
This did cross my mind!

I think I got the weight wrong, they are just the wrong side of a Ton, but still lighter than a 325i.
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Thu Apr 29, 2010 10:00 pm

My touring may not be the quickest thing on the road, but for a 20 year old car, its not slow either. A well looked after, properly serviced 325i will still piss on many modern vehicles, especially on the twisties. winkeye
Also driver skills come into the equation too.
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FASTFREDDIE wrote:your missing the point mate,he did give a toss oherwise he would'nt of given me the w..ker sign,he got mugged off by a peice of old scrap.
Probably waving you the w*nker because it sounds like you were driving like one. Don't forget kids - points mean prizes, we all win when the tosspots are banned from driving.
hahahahaha wankers dont win races do they ? well this one did :D so every one who has a race on the rd is a toss pot then ?
how many fellow zoners have done the same thing as me?
id lay money theres more than a few are they all tospots as well?
its the work of a "maniac"
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Thu Apr 29, 2010 10:10 pm

oomz1975 wrote:My touring may not be the quickest thing on the road, but for a 20 year old car, its not slow either. A well looked after, properly serviced 325i will still pee pee on many modern vehicles, especially on the twisties. winkeye
Also driver skills come into the equation too.
be careful now mr oomz your be frowned upon by the tony+guy firm winkeye

maybe its becaus we're londeners lalala
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Thu Apr 29, 2010 10:14 pm

I've had a pop at cars before, and have been dusted many times. They mostly race me as I'm not that subtle in the noise dept but I'll have a go back :D
Just a bit of fun if the conditions allow and it's on acceleration- wouldn't dream of trying to outbrake a modern car though in my shed on cold greenstuff :D
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The difference between you and most zoners is we don't feel the need to boast about any races we have had...
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Thu Apr 29, 2010 10:43 pm

well sir sorry if it came across as boasting, it was'nt intended that way it was a giggle and the other guys attitude towards my old touring that i felt i should share it with other e30 owners.
who must have had the same treatment from newer car owners looking down their noses etc.
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Thu Apr 29, 2010 10:48 pm

ross_jsy wrote:The difference between you and most zoners is we don't feel the need to boast about any races we have had...
Oh I'm not boasting, just saying most of us have done it haven't we.... and been beaten :D
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